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Originally Posted by Fat BeastMode2010
I do like the idea of a choice scarf set. Since I already have BB, I think I can I will go with Return over DE, because of the recoil and from what I've read Return deals around the same. If I had Reckless I would totally go DE tho, but our FOB doesn't have WiFi so can't tuck in no Pokemans. lol
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Return is 153 after STAB and Double-Edge (assuming Intimidate) is 180 after STAB or 216 for reckless.
What matters though is that (and I'm just saying this from my experience, so maybe you won't feel the same) most of the time you'll be using one of your 3 other moves anyway. I.e. Brave Bird for the KO if super effective or if neutral vs something defensively weak, or Close Combat for the KO on super effective, or U-Turn when you know you cannot KO. Return (or even Double-Edge) will be rarely used simply because Flying's coverage is fairly similar to Normal. The only times you'll be using your normal move will be vs Electrics.
Return has high (but not guaranteed) chance to OHKO Jolteon (Double-Edge - Reckless or Intimidate - guarantees OHKO). Return has mediocre chance to OHKO Manectric while Double-Edge guarantees it. Return guarantees KO on Raichu. Other than that, Intimidate Double-Edge really wouldn't do much more than Return, and... Return will not really be getting that much used anyway, because even if both Return and Brave Bird are guaranteed OHKOs, you probably would be using Brave Bird so that the next incoming pokemon will (likely to be) hit harder, possibly OHKO'd whereas it otherwise wouldn't have been if the locked move was Return. And, if neither Brave Bird nor Return (or Close Combat) OHKOs, then you should be using U-Turn anyway instead of using Return and then die.
All that said, I don't know. Maybe Final Gambit is an ok replacement instead of having the normal move. Hah, sorry for rambling on. With Choice Band, there's a strong case for Quick Attack, but with Scarf, regardless of what it is, it's not going to be used that much.