[HART4FLOON]

Originally Posted by Fat col49

Why list Hp Fire in the same slot as Weather Ball? One of the biggest reasons to run Victreebell is the ability to run another Hidden Power without having to resort to Hp Fire. I would say that Hp Rock would be preferrable, hitting Moltres/Entei/Altaria (rare as it is) for SE damage. Just generally speaking, I would say that Leaf Blade+Weather Ball is more valuable than the extra power of Powah Whip, but I suppose there could be instances of it's use. Also, I'd mention Encore, locking someone into a move at such speed is pretty awesome, whether you choose to use it to set up Growth or not.

That's why I listed Leaf Blade + Weather Ball as the first slash. Power Whip + HP Fire are the second slash. Power Whip still has its uses anyway. It OHKO's Munchlax after SR and a layer of spikes iirc and nets a few other KO'es I think. Encore is already mentioned in OO. Victreebel can't safely use Encore most of the time because his defenses are very underwhelming. Besides, he's better off just hitting as hard and as quickly as possible.