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Old Nov 24th, 2011, 8:42:53 AM   #5
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On Gyarados, the reason Return only did 1% is because you had 0 Happiness; however, I think that Double-Edge is still superior, haha.

I don't really think you can make this team much better without changing anything huge tbh, since the problems with these type of teams will always be present without completely changing your team.

My only possible change would be running something over Gyarados. I'd recommend something like Shell Smash (duh) Cloyster. Cloyster checks Dragonite much better, and Volcarona (except HP Ice lol) is already checked by Dragonite. Additionally, it can do stuff like lure in Ferrothorn and quickly destroy it with a +2 Icicle Spear. If you run Focus Sash then it also acts as a one time stop to almost everything, additionally.

EDIT: I realized this makes you a lot weaker to Scizor and Lucario. If you do run Cloyster, then you should run a lot of bulk (something like 252 HP / 160 Def and probably Shell Smash / (HP Fire / Hydro Pump) / Icicle Spear / Rock Blast since it'll let you beat Scizor and Lucario (neither can OHKO you, while you can get up to +2/+2 and OHKO back).
Focus sash cloyster is really cool, especially as a lead since it can pressure Deoxys. The only problem as you said is that it takes Gyara's spot which is important for checking Lucario, and it can only go over Gyara imo. Salamence > Nite might work for that though, sounds good to test. Cloyster also outspeeds terrakion with jolly which is really nice. Thanks for the rate.

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Great team man, seriously. I can't really add anything except for agreeing with trying cloyster over gyarados. I just don't know. The only thing bad I can think of is I've alreaduly had to face this team twice, and neither were you. To me, that's the only thing bad about good RMT's.
Thanks for the comment, and if you want a better shot to win against this team pack scarf terrakion!

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Hey Checker! Me likey the team.
I would have to say Gyarados is your main star here, because for some reason you still do not see it enough on ladder making it an under prepared threat.
The Volt Turn core could be troublesome, but it normally is for every team.
Good work!
hi socks. Yea, most people don't really prepare for Gyara outside of Rotom-w, so if they aren't packing scarf then then will just have to sac stuff until I die to recoil. Volt turn is surprisingly easy to break up only if screens are up. Nite can just tank anything and break that duo up. Reflect lets Virizion break it up too. Gyara also beats it if rotom isn't scarfed, but yea if it can be annoying sometimes. Thanks for the rate.
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