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Ace Emerald · Jan 10th, 2012, 5:21:51 PM

Congratz on the Senate seat Reach!
To celebrate this brand new megathread, I'd like to start discussion about something thats been bugging me for a while. I've seen many people discussing spinning and spinners, and almost always Kabutops is left of the list. The thing about support Kabutops is that even with little attack investment, its attack still hits 284, which isn't that far away from a fully invested base 100 or 90 attack. So it has the marvelous ability to inflict serious damage upon many enemy spin blockers. Mismagius without heavy defense investment is KO'd by Stone Edge, then Aqua Jet. Even with investment, Stealth Rocks (another great support option Kabutops has) allows Kabutops to still make the 2HKO. Chandlelure can't switch in at all, due to being both Water and Rock weak, and Kabutops can actually switch into a Scarf Chandy locked into Fire Blast. Golurk is a bit of a problem if you don't run Waterfall, though I haven't seen as many this round. Sableye is a little painful to deal with, but Stone Edge 2HKOs standard most of the time without hazards, and with some smart switching during turns with predictable W-O-Ws and Recovers, it can be managed. Unfortunately though, Dusclops is a full stop to Kabutops.

Outside of Rapid Spin, support Kabutops still has many uses, which has been one of the traits most desired after Donphans promotion. No one wants to start a match 5-6. As I've already stated, its no pushover in attack. It can set up Stealth Rocks as mentioned before, and it is a pretty solid physical wall. It can switch into Darm pretty easily, though a Superpower or EQ will cripple him. It also has amazing basic synergy with Roserade; they resist very many of each others weaknesses, Kabutops is physical while Roserade is special, Roserade can set up Spikes to go with Stealth Rocks, and Roserade can support Kabutops with Leech Seed, or Aromatherapy. Of course, in actual battles the opponent can switch moves or predict, but they can still come in on some of each others counters (Kabutops in on Snorelax, Roserade on bulky waters).

Jan 10th, 2012, 5:21:51 PM	#2
Ace Emerald Back in Emerald Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,236 Lost in thought Mentor	Congratz on the Senate seat Reach! To celebrate this brand new megathread, I'd like to start discussion about something thats been bugging me for a while. I've seen many people discussing spinning and spinners, and almost always Kabutops is left of the list. The thing about support Kabutops is that even with little attack investment, its attack still hits 284, which isn't that far away from a fully invested base 100 or 90 attack. So it has the marvelous ability to inflict serious damage upon many enemy spin blockers. Mismagius without heavy defense investment is KO'd by Stone Edge, then Aqua Jet. Even with investment, Stealth Rocks (another great support option Kabutops has) allows Kabutops to still make the 2HKO. Chandlelure can't switch in at all, due to being both Water and Rock weak, and Kabutops can actually switch into a Scarf Chandy locked into Fire Blast. Golurk is a bit of a problem if you don't run Waterfall, though I haven't seen as many this round. Sableye is a little painful to deal with, but Stone Edge 2HKOs standard most of the time without hazards, and with some smart switching during turns with predictable W-O-Ws and Recovers, it can be managed. Unfortunately though, Dusclops is a full stop to Kabutops. Outside of Rapid Spin, support Kabutops still has many uses, which has been one of the traits most desired after Donphans promotion. No one wants to start a match 5-6. As I've already stated, its no pushover in attack. It can set up Stealth Rocks as mentioned before, and it is a pretty solid physical wall. It can switch into Darm pretty easily, though a Superpower or EQ will cripple him. It also has amazing basic synergy with Roserade; they resist very many of each others weaknesses, Kabutops is physical while Roserade is special, Roserade can set up Spikes to go with Stealth Rocks, and Roserade can support Kabutops with Leech Seed, or Aromatherapy. Of course, in actual battles the opponent can switch moves or predict, but they can still come in on some of each others counters (Kabutops in on Snorelax, Roserade on bulky waters).