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Lileep
Lileep
Overview and Discussion
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Rock/Grass
Suction Cups: Negates moves that force switching out.
Storm Drain: Water-type moves are drawn to this Pokemon. Water-type moves will do no damage and the Pokemon's Sp. Attack stat is raised by one stage. (Dream World)
Lileep is quite an interesting Pokemon. With unique Grass/Rock typing, he has only three weaknesses, Ice, Rock, and Fighting, although one is a major weakness in this metagame. Still, Lileep functions incredibly well right now, able to act as a special sponge and a Stealth Rock layer, and being part Rock, gets a Special Defense boost from the most common weather, Sandstorm. He has notoriously been known as the second best Sandstorm abuser, next to Drilbur, of course. Although I totally support the discussion of sets and usage in this metagame, I feel the discussion should more be geared toward an ultimate question: does Lileep have what it takes to be used in a Sandstorm team?
Sets
[SET]
name: Special Sponge
move 1: Recover
move 2: Energy Ball
move 3: Toxic/Stealth Rock
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Eviolite
ability: Storm Drain
nature: Calm
ev's: 228 HP|140 Def|140 SpD
Lileep works wonderfully as a special sponge, dealing with some of the more notorious special attackers in the metagame, such as Chinchou or Staryu. His base SpD is already high, and Eviolite increases this by 50%. Recover works really well in conjunction with Toxic or Toxic Spikes, and Eviolite lets it comfortably tank some special and physical hits and Recover off most of the damage. Energy Ball works very well when you switch into a Hydro Pump from Chinchou or Staryu, gaining +1 Special Attack, while letting you get good coverage on Waters, Rocks, and Grounds, which in conjunction with Toxic can wear the opposing Pokemon down. This set can act as a Stealth Rock layer, but Toxic in general helps this set a lot, wearing down anything that you hit; Toxic Spikes works well with this set too and lets Lileep comfortably use Stealth Rock, plus Lileep beats the best Rapid Spinner in the metagame 1 on 1, Staryu thanks to Storm Drain.
Hidden Power Fire is mainly for coverage, as Energy Ball and Toxic are both resisted by steel types. Although this set can function quite well without Sandstorm, Hippopotas is a great partner with Lileep. He has great synergy with Storm Drain and sandstorm extremely raises Lileep's Special Defense. Lileep struggles to beat Snover, who gets rid of sandstorm and has a STAB Blizzard, but is hard pressed to switch in because of Stealth Rocks and Hidden Power Fire. Larvesta makes a great partner with Lileep, too, who resists all of Lileep's weakness: Ice, Fighting, and Steel, and Lileep is immune to water-type attacks.
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[SET]
name: Stockpile
move 1: Stockpile
move 2: Energy Ball
move 3: Hidden Power Fire/Toxic
move 4: Recover/Rest
item: Eviolite
ability: Storm Drain
nature: Bold
ev's: 228 HP|220 Def|60 SpD
This set's main priority is to set up Stockpile and wall anything in its path. Energy Ball + Storm Drain greatly helps this set, letting Lileep beat bulky waters with relative ease, including Frillish and Chinchou. The choice between Hidden Power Fire and Toxic is difficult. Hidden Power Fire lets Lileep take on the main walls to this set, Ferroseed and Snover, although Lileep will need some boosts to take on the latter. Lileep really appreciates Toxic, though, which is his main way to stall an opposing Pokemon in conjunction with Stockpile. Therefore, Lileep loves Toxic Spikes support, and Tentacool makes a wonderful partner, sponging two of Lileep's 3 weaknesses. Recover is generally the superior recovery option since you don't have to wait two turns to start attacking again, but Rest can be used as an alternative because Lileep generally gets screwed by Toxic itself.
Although incredibly defensive already with Eviolite, Stockpile heightens this to a point where Lileep is basically non-afraid of most moves, and in some cases even weaker super effective moves, such as Drain Punch and Flash Cannon. This set loves the help that Sandstorm brings, and Hippopotas is always a good partner for Lileep, setting up Stealth Rocks and luring in water-types for free setups and boosts from Storm Drain. Toxic Spikes, as said before, makes the set highly more efficient then normal, allowing you to not run Toxic and waste turns Toxicing, although this should be considered in great deal since Croagunk, the most used poision type, shuts down this set completely and hits back with STAB SE Drain Punch while absorbing Toxic Spikes.
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I'm totally serious, there's only two weather types in Little Cup!
And we only have one broken abuser of it.
I bet you can't guess who it is.
I'll give you a hint though: it's a mole.
Last edited by Aerrow; Feb 3rd, 2012 at 9:10:08 PM.
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