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Old Jan 20th, 2012, 11:16:51 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Fat Upstart View Post
Really an amazing team. I would like to congratulate you on creating such a cool team and getting such a high rating.

Edit: Also the presentation of the rmt is very good also.
Thanks for the compliments!

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Originally Posted by Fat RUisSerperior View Post
With such reliability on getting up hazards via your deoxys-D, magic bounce xatu's certainly seem to have the potential to throw a wrench in your team if you can't properly dispose of them. Though with such offensive power on your team, i see no reason why you wouldn't be able to deal with a xatu, as they don't have much in way of harming any of your pokemon anyways.

Also, as far as utility roserades and the threat they pose, maybe you could try a taunt chandelure as opposed to a sub set. You then would have a true counter to roserades, especially since your only taunter, deoxys-D, is meant to set up hazards and die.

Just my observations from what ive read, but really nice team, ive been looking into trying out some UU action, but haven't really known where to start in the team building process. I might try this out.
After a bit of testing, I found that the problem with changing Substitute for Taunt on Chandelure is that I don't really use it against Roserade that often because Roserade usually switches out upon encountering Chandelure and I'm usually better served by setting up a Substitute as Roserade flees and hitting the switch-in. Thanks for the suggestion and the compliments, though!

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Originally Posted by Fat harsha2014 View Post
Wow. Great team. I'm not going to make any suggestions because it has already proven itself. Congrats on the ranking! You wouldn't mind if I nominated this for the archive, would you?
I didn't expect anyone to want to nominate this team for the RMT Archive, but I'm certainly not going to say no!

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Originally Posted by Fat DestinyUnknown View Post
Really good team you have there. What I noticed (even before reading the Threat List) was your big weakness to Weavile. That being said, you might consider changing your Heracross to scarf and flygon to CB (its cool that way because Flygon usually bluffs scarf and you can surprise your opponents) or maybe using a bit more deffensive spread on Suicune.

Anyways, great time and good luck ^^
Thanks! I can try changing Heracross to a Choice Scarf variant and giving Flygon a Choice Band. I'm a bit worried about Flygon's relative lack of power and Heracross's relative lack of Speed, so I'd have to run damage calculations before implementing this as a permanent solution.

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Originally Posted by Fat D4RR3N View Post
Seconding DestinyUnknown's suggestion for changing your Heracross to a Choice Scarfed variant. As for Flygon, a mixed set with Fire Blast/Draco Meteor/Earthquake/Roost would work really well with spikes support. Great team otherwise. Will probably throw in a full rate tomorrow.
It's worth a shot. I don't really like using Heracross with Choice Scarf because so many common users of Choice Scarf outspeed it, but it may be the best solution to this team. I can try that along with mixed Flygon, but that set may leave me rather weak on the physical side. I really rely on Heracross's power to break through Pokemon that wall my sweepers, so I'm not sure that being without a strong physical attacker is really my best option. Thanks for the rate!

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Originally Posted by Fat PK Gaming View Post
This team is perfect, or the closest thing to a competitive UU team. I feel that changing the team as is, to deal with one or two threats would be detrimental to how good this team is.

5 stars.
Thanks, man! That means a lot coming from a player of your caliber, and I think you bring up a good point about how the diversity of the Generation 5 metagame means that every team is weak to something. I have to weigh the potential consequences of any changes carefully so that I don't end up creating more weaknesses than I fix.

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Originally Posted by Fat ThunderBlunder View Post
Ahhh Yeah! As soon as I saw a CB Heracross, I knew this team would be god. Not only do you have great synergy, but easily the ability to counter almost every threat in UU. Amazing Team :D
Thanks! I appreciate the compliments.

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Originally Posted by Fat THIS GUY View Post
What do you do about swampert? He utterly walls both raikou and suicune, can roar them out, and hit raikou with a STAB super-effective EQ. I'd suggest HP grass on raikou, but then roserade would become a problem to raikou, and evey1 luvs usin roserade. And depending on the ev spread, swampert will beat chandelure 1v1 if both are at full health. Not to mention catching chandelure on the craazy obvious switch in.
Heracross 2HKOs Swampert with either of its STAB moves and Chandelure beats 248 HP / 44 SDef Relaxed Swampert one on one almost all of the time (Swampert needs a low Energy Ball damage roll and a high Earthquake damage roll to come out on top). Suicune also beats Swampert one on one even if Scald doesn't Burn it. Also, that last sentence confuses me. Chandelure is definitely not my primary switch into Swampert. If I bring it in against Swampert at all, it's on a double switch. Otherwise, I'm setting up hazards with Deoxys-D or threatening it out with Heracross or Suicune.
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