Feb 22nd, 2012, 11:41:58 PM
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Anyone else think that these new counters sections are getting a bit too wordy? I mean, we probably need more substance in the Counters section, but like Setsuna has said before, we also need to be concise. Sorry Nachos for picking on yours, but I just want to illustrate a point:
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Being part Ice-type is a double-edged sword for Cloyster. On one hand, it gains an awesome STAB move. On the other, it takes 25% damage from Stealth Rock whenever it switches in, and is liable to being hit by both Spikes and Toxic Spikes. For that reason, having Stealth Rock on the field is a good first answer to Cloyster. A Bullet Punch from Choice Banded Scizor will 2HKO Cloyster after it has taken Stealth Rock damage, while the only thing Cloyster can do back is Hydro Pump, which fails to OHKO Scizor even at +2, not to mention it has shaky accuracy. If rain is up however, Scizor will be easily OHKOed. Conkeldurr will 2HKO offensive Cloyster with Mach Punch as well. Vaccum Wave Lucario is another option to deal with Cloyster; it has no way of stopping a STABed priority move to its pitiful Special Defense stat which will easily OHKO if Lucario is holding a Life Orb. As Cloyster is incredibly fast after Shell Smash, there aren't many Choice Scarfed Pokemon that can even outspeed it. Something that can though is Latios, who will send the clam back to the ocean with Draco Meteor if it is holding a Choice Scarf.
Generally speaking, bulky Water-types and Steel-types can handle Cloyster. Non-choiced Rotom-W resists Cloyster's STAB moves, and isn't too fussed about Rock Blast. It can promptly OHKO the clam with Thunderbolt, making it a good switch-in to Cloyster in general. Jellicent and Tentacruel also have the possibility to annoy Cloyster greatly. While both can use Scald on Cloyster and hope for a burn, they also have other options that can put a damper on Cloyster's life. One Will-O-Wisp from Jellicent will help prevent Cloyster from being huge problem. Tentacruel's other option is Toxic, which will start the clock on Cloyster's existance when used in tandem with Protect. Slowbro is another bulky Water- type who can tank anything that Cloyster can throw at it, and target its weaker Special Defense stat with Psychic or Flamethrower. It can also Thunder Wave Cloyster to cripple it. Skarmory can't do much to Cloyster, but can Whirlwind it out to prevent the immediate problem. This is significant due to Cloyster usually carrying a White Herb, and when it is used up Cloyster is left extremely vulnerable later on in the game, potentially being pulverized after using Shell Smash by anything with a strong STAB move. Jirachi with defensive EV investment can quite easily take Cloyster's Water STAB move, and retaliate with Thunderbolt on a Calm Mind version or Body Slam and Iron Head on a specially defensive or physically offensive version. Ferrothorn can take a +2 Icicle Spear, and either hit back with Power Whip, or cripple Cloyster with Thunder Wave. Thanks to Unaware ignoring Shell Smash boosts, Quagsire can take Icicle Spear nicely and Toxic Cloyster back, or even hope to burn it with Scald. A slightly unusual but effective option to deal with Cloyster is specially defensive Heatran. If Hydro Pump is favored over Razor Shell as the Water- type move on Cloyster, it will be unable to OHKO Heatran even at +2. Heatran will OHKO Cloyster for sure after it's taken Stealth Rock damage with Lava Plume. Take note that if rain is up, Heatran will be decimated by any Water-type move from Cloyster.
However, it's likely that you may not have one of the listed checks or they were the victim of a violent crime earlier on in the match. In that case, your best bet is to simply prevent Cloyster setting up by any means possible. This can be done by not leaving something in that Cloyster can easily set up upon after something on your opponent's team dies, or by setting up as many hazards as you can so all of your Pokemon can later on stand a chance against it. One should take note not to underestimate Cloyster. Should the opponent lack any strong answer to Cloyster, this clam can become one of the most dangerous Pokemon to face in OU in a single turn.
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Everything in bold could potentially be omitted. Be quick and straight to the point. Something like "Specially Defensive Jirachi is the best counter to Latios" is better than "Due to Jirachi's high Special Defense and Steel-typing, which neutralises Latios' Dragon STAB, Specially Defensive Jirachi is the best counter to Latios", in my opinion. On that topic, are we GPing these, if only just once?
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