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**Pocket** · Mar 20th, 2012, 3:59:06 PM

A tardy response to jrrrrrrr's Gengar update:

Other Options

I feel like you went a little overboard with this. With the nerf, Explosion is not worthy of a mention, especially with Gengar luring in Steel- and Tyranitar like a magnet.
Energy Ball / Giga Drain is not really for TTar, but more for Gastrodon who would otherwise wall Gengar. I guess it is also useful for hitting Politoed harder.
You could mention Thunder alongside Thunderbolt for a powerful coverage move in the rain.
Wisp should have a bigger emphasis in its ability to cripple Gengar's usual counters, Scizor, Tyranitar, and Jirachi, rendering them to be set-up bait for Gengar's offensive partners.

Checks and Counters

You should note that Sucker Punch is an unreliable priority against Gengar, since Gengar can easily put up a Substitute.
For Conkeldurr and Tentacruel, mention that they can screw over Disable Gengar by using Mach Punch or Protect to prevent Gengar from Disable-ing Payback or Scald
Bulky Water-types in general are good options against Gengar, as they can tank a Shadow Ball rather effortlessly. Such Pokemon include Gastrodon, Politoed, Vaporeon, and aforementioned Tentacruel.
I would add Tornadus in a list of Pokemon that is faster than Gengar.

Mar 20th, 2012, 3:59:06 PM	#63
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,164 Bergenfield	A tardy response to jrrrrrrr's Gengar update: Other Options I feel like you went a little overboard with this. With the nerf, Explosion is not worthy of a mention, especially with Gengar luring in Steel- and Tyranitar like a magnet. Energy Ball / Giga Drain is not really for TTar, but more for Gastrodon who would otherwise wall Gengar. I guess it is also useful for hitting Politoed harder. You could mention Thunder alongside Thunderbolt for a powerful coverage move in the rain. Wisp should have a bigger emphasis in its ability to cripple Gengar's usual counters, Scizor, Tyranitar, and Jirachi, rendering them to be set-up bait for Gengar's offensive partners. Checks and Counters You should note that Sucker Punch is an unreliable priority against Gengar, since Gengar can easily put up a Substitute. For Conkeldurr and Tentacruel, mention that they can screw over Disable Gengar by using Mach Punch or Protect to prevent Gengar from Disable-ing Payback or Scald Bulky Water-types in general are good options against Gengar, as they can tank a Shadow Ball rather effortlessly. Such Pokemon include Gastrodon, Politoed, Vaporeon, and aforementioned Tentacruel. I would add Tornadus in a list of Pokemon that is faster than Gengar. __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official!