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Old Apr 11th, 2012, 12:29:06 AM   #1
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Default The Trial of the King Killers [Anti-Metagame Defensive "Tier List"] Update: T11 Done!

Welcome to the Anti-Metagame "Tier List!"

This is a list of Pokemon that counter the Top 11 in OU arranged into an easily readable "tier list" for your team building convenience. It will soon be a Top 20 list but for the moment, it's just Top 11.

A Few Quick Notes Before Reading On:
Ferrothorn, Choice Band Dragonite, Choice Band Terrakion, & Choice Specs Politoed were NOT included in the making of the purely defensive list.
Ferrothorn’s lack of power & coverage made the list far too large; to give you an idea, Standard Ferrothorn can’t 2HKO about 60~70% of the useable Pokémon in the game. Adding him to the list changed so little that it wasn't worth the large amount of time it would take to add all those Pokemon to the list.
Choice Band Dragonite, Band Terrakion, & Specs Politoed were excluded all for the same reason: Due to having 4 Moves for coverage & immense power, there were only around 5 Pokémon for each that could take a hit from them. Because all the other Top 11 Pokémon only get one set each, giving them 2 sets would give Pokemon like Jellicent & Gligar unfair tiering numbers.
Gliscor was given a +2 Attack boost as with only Earthquake & Ice Fang, his counters were nearly as numerous as Ferrothorn’s. Gliscor can easily get to +2 behind a Sub before he must confront his foe so I felt the +2 was justified.

To-Do List:
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- Make this into a Top 20 List (The Top 11 will still be listed)
- Multiple Sets for the Top 20 ...Not entirely sure how I'll handle that.
- Moveset Listings
- Prettying-up the thread
Step 1 – Defense Calcs!
What I did was, I took mass damage calculations for the Scizor, Dragonite, Heatran, Rotom-W, Tyranitar, Politoed, Terrakion, Gliscor, Jirachi, & Landorus sets listed below and included every single On-Site set from OU to NU.
Then I took any Pokémon that had a set that cannot be 2HKOed by ANY of the selected Pokémon sets’ moves and made them into the alphabetized lists below.


Scizor Choice Band

Dragonite Dragon Dance (Outrage, Earthquake, Fire Punch)

Heatran Offensive

Rotom-W Choice Scarf

Tyranitar SpDefensive + Stone Edge

Politoed Choice Scarf (Weather: Rain)

Terrakion Choice Scarf

Gliscor Swords Dance (+2 Attack)

Jirachi SubPara

Landorus Choice Scarf (Weather: Sandstorm)

*Sets with Air Balloon are calculated into these which is why Cobalion is anywhere near Landorus' list

Step 2 – Sorting!
After making 10 complete lists, I took Jirachi’s long list and added Pokémon from the other lists to make the main list.
If a Pokémon is already on the main list and they are listed on one of the other 9 lists, they get a star next to their name and an additional star for each and every instance of being repeated, with 9 Stars being the current maximum.

Step 3 – Tiering!
Using the stars given to every Pokémon, I sorted the Pokémon into tiers based on the number of stars they have and cropped out the Pokémon with no stars for convenience. (The list would be very long otherwise)
I present to you the purely Defensive Anti-Metagame "Tier List":
Purely Defensive Anti-Metagame "Tier List"

Step 4 – Offensive Calcs!

Simply tanking hits isn't enough. King Killers need to be able to dish-out hits strong enough to break the Pokemon they're walling. So with that in mind, I took the lists of Pokemon that wall each top 11 threat and went through one by one, figuring out which Pokemon can deal 50% or more per hit to the Pokemon they wall.

That allowed me to creat these lists of "true" counters for each of the Top 11 Pokemon. These Pokemon take less than 50% from any move the Offensive sets above carry, while being able to, at the very least, 2HKO the most common Defensive variants of the the same Pokemon:

Dragonite Bulky DD (Multiscale broken)

Ferrothorn Standard

Gliscor Defensive

Heatran Specially Defensive

Jirachi Specially Defensive

Landorus Choice Scarf

Politoed Defensive

Rotom-W Bulky Attacker

Scizor Choice Band

Terrakion Choice Scarf

Tyranitar Specially Defensive


Step 5 – The “Finished” List!
Taking the Purely Defensive Tier List from before, I gave each Pokemon on that list one extra star for each "True Counter" list they appear on, adding 11 stars to the maximum amount possible. After sorting the Pokemon back into tiers, I created and present to you the the True Anti-Top 11 Tier List:
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Bro-Tier
***************Slowbro 

S-Tier
**************Dragonite (Multiscale greatly influences calcs and ranking)
**************Gyarados 
**************Hippowdon (Sand Stream)
**************Lickilicky 
**************Suicune 

A-Tier
*************Hitmontop 
*************Latias 
*************Mew 
*************Milotic (Marvel Scale greatly influences calcs and ranking)
*************Poliwrath 

B-Tier
************Celebi 
************Cresselia 
************Dusclops 
************Empoleon
************Shelgon 

C-Tier
***********Bronzong 
***********Musharna 
***********Porygon2 
***********Quagsire 
***********Wobbuffet  (Counter & Mirror Coat greatly influence placement)

D-Tier
**********Cobalion 
**********Donphan 
**********Granbull 
**********Gurdurr 
**********Heatran 
**********Ludicolo 
**********Luxray 
**********Meganium 
**********Metagross 
**********Seadra 
**********Swampert 
**********Tangrowth 
**********Torterra 

E-Tier
*********Alomomola
*********Amoonguss 
*********Blastoise 
*********Gliscor 
*********Jellicent 
*********Ninetales (Drought)
*********Piloswine 
*********Politoed (Drizzle)
*********Regigigas 
*********Toxicroak 
*********Tyranitar (Sand Stream)

F-Tier
********Druddigon 
********Hariyama 
********Jirachi 
********Kingdra 
********Magnezone 
********Mesprit 
********Muk 
********Salamence 
********Snorlax
********Weezing 
********Zapdos 

G-Tier
*******Chansey 
*******Cofagrigus 
*******Cradily
*******Dusknoir 
*******Leafeon 
*******Moltres 
*******Nidoqueen 
*******Reuniclus 
*******Rhydon 
*******Rotom-C 
*******Rotom-W 
*******Sandslash 
*******Shaymin 
*******Tangela 
*******Uxie 
*******Vaporeon 
*******Venusaur
*******Virizion
*******Wormadam-G 

H-Tier
******Ampharos 
******Azumarill 
******Breloom
******Charizard 
******Deoxys-D 
******Dragonair 
******Eelektross 
******Feraligatr 
******Gastrodon 
******Gligar 
******Hippopotas 
******Lanturn 
******Metang 
******Probopass 
******Rotom-H 
******Serperior 
******Slowking 
******Togekiss 
******Vigoroth 

I-Tier
*****Claydol 
*****Forretress
*****Gardevoir 
*****Magcargo 
*****Miltank 
*****Munchlax 
*****Qwilfish 
*****Regirock 
*****Seismitoad 
*****Skarmory 
*****Terrakion
*****Throh 
*****Tropius 
*****Vileplume 
*****Whiscash 

J-Tier
****Altaria 
****Clefable 
****Cloyster 
****Conkeldurr 
****Crustle 
****Exeggutor 
****Lapras 
****Machamp 
****Mantine 
****Masquerain 
****Misdreavus 
****Pelipper 
****Porygon 
****Regice
****Rotom 
****Rotom-S 
****Scrafty 
****Scyther
****Spiritomb 
****Stunfisk 
****Tentacruel 
****Torkoal 
****Volcarona 
****Wartortle 
****Zweilous

K-Tier
***Articuno
***Azelf 
***Carracosta 
***Drapion 
***Electabuzz 
***Ferroseed
***Ferrothorn
***Frillish 
***Gabite 
***Gallade
***Garbodor 
***Golbat 
***Golurk 
***Gothitelle 
***Haxorus 
***Hydreigon 
***Machoke 
***Mandibuzz 
***Marowak 
***Octillery 
***Omastar 
***Relicanth
***Rhyperior 
***Samurott 
***Sawsbuck 
***Steelix 
***Swalot 
***Tentacool 
***Umbreon 
***Walrein 
***Whirlipede
 
L-Tier
**Aggron 
**Arcanine
**Armaldo
**Audino 
**Blissey 
**Chandelure 
**Chimecho 
**Cottonee 
**Cryogonal
**Darmanitan 
**Emboar 
**Entei 
**Escavalier
**Flareon 
**Fraxure 
**Gorebyss 
**Heatmor 
**Huntail 
**Hypno 
**Infernape 
**Kangaskhan 
**Lampent 
**Latios 
**Lilligant 
**Lumineon 
**Magmortar 
**Magneton 
**Mawile 
**Phione 
**Raikou 
**Rapidash 
**Registeel 
**Roselia
**Scizor
**Simisear 
**Togetic 
**Typhlosion 
**Victini 
**Wailord
 
M-Tier
*Abomasnow
*Arbok 
*Basculin
*Basculin-B
*Bibarel 
*Bisharp 
*Bouffalant 
*Braviary 
*Camerupt 
*Crawdaunt 
*Duosion 
*Electivire 
*Exploud 
*Floatzel 
*Glaceon
*Golduck 
*Grumpig
*Heracross
*Kabutops 
*Kecleon
*Kingler 
*Krookodile 
*Kyurem
*Lairon 
*Landorus 
*Manectric 
*Mismagius
*Nidoking
*Noctowl
*Omanyte 
*Roserade
*Rotom-F
*Sableye 
*Scraggy 
*Shedinja
*Simipour 
*Slaking 
*Solrock
*Staraptor 
*Starmie 
*Stoutland 
*Sudowoodo 
*Swoobat
*Tauros 
*Whimsicott 
*Wigglytuff 
*Zebstrika
 
Nope-Tier
Bastiodon 
Beheeyem 
Cacturne
Clamperl
Combusken 
Corsola
Crobat 
Dewgong
Drifblim 
Dunsparce 
Electrode 
Emolga 
Illumise
Jynx
Klinklang 
Lopunny 
Magikarp (OU One Speed, One Gear, One Moveset [Air Balloon])
Murkrow 
Natu 
Pinsir
Seaking 
Shuckle
Sigilyph 
Swanna 
Unfezant 
Vespiquen 
Volbeat
Wormadam-S
Wynaut
Xatu
Slowbro has come out as the top Pokemon to deal with the Top 11 Pokemon in OU with Dragonite, Gyarados, Hippowdon, Suicune, and, surprisingly enough, Lickilicky right behind him.

Keep in mind that a lot of these Pokemon such as Empoleon, Cobalion, or Heatran have Balloon sets which let them get past Pokemon like Landorus & Heatran that they normally wouldn't be able to.

Intimidate is also taken into account, so Pokemon like Granbull & Gyarados are higher than they would be without it.


I'm expanding the list to the Top 20 in OU next update. I'll base it on April OU Usage when that goes up next week.

Until then, break the mold and take down the kings!
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Last edited by Katakiri; Apr 24th, 2012 at 11:10:12 PM.
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