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DTC · Apr 24th, 2012, 8:09:20 PM

So Tomohawk is a huge threat in the current CAP meta. How do you guys deal with it? The best way to deal with Tomohawk, in my opinion, is to simply have the least amount of Pokemon weak to it as possible. Tomohawk will most likely be around for most of the match. However, if your team does well against Tomohawk, the Tomohawk user will be less worried about keeping Tomohawk alive. Not only that, but Tomohawk will have less chances to set-up a Substitute on you. Having a weather starter of your own to ruin Hurricane's accuracy is also an effective way of crippling Tomohawk; a 70% accuracy Hurricane is much less reliable than a 100% accuracy Hurricane, obviously.

There are also some very good checks out there for Tomohawk. Most Psychic-, Flying-, and Electric-types do well against it. Zapdos, Krilowatt, and Jirachi in particular do really against Tomohawk.

Zapdos resists both of Tomohawk's STABS and has a super effective Thunderbolt to hit Tomohawk with. It also has Roost, so it can heal back all the health lost from beating Tomohawk.

Krilowatt is immune to Tomohawk's Toxic, so Tomohawk can't try to stall it with Toxic, and it also resists Tomohawk's strongest STAB: Hurricane. It still gets hit pretty hard with Aura Sphere, but it's still a good check.

Jirachi with Psychic does very well against Tomohawk. Tomohawk can't do much damage to it with Aura Sphere, even if Jirachi is running no HP or Special Defense EV's, and it can't even poison Jirachi. Meanwhile Jirachi can easily 2HKO Tomohawk with Psychic and recover back lost health later.

Those are only some of the better checks I've found; there are a lot of good checks out there. Kitsunoh, Skarmory, Togekiss, Cyclohm, and Reuniclus are a few other checks out there. That's definitely not all, though!

One Pokemon that I've enjoyed using lately is Choice Specs Syclant.

Syclant @ Choice Specs
Trait: Mountaineer
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam / Blizzard
- Bug Buzz
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Syclant can't switch-in on much, thanks to its bad defenses, but at least Mountaineer helps with that. Once it gets in, it'll do a lot of damage to anything that tries to switch-in. Its main advantage over Tail Glow Syclant is that it doesn't need to set-up to be very powerful. It also gets a free moveslot for something such as Hidden Power Fire, which hits those pesky Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Forretess hard. Blizzard can be used if you're using Syclant in hail; with Blizzard, Syclant is even more hard to switch-in to.

It's a good thing Syclant has the Mountaineer ability, otherwise I wouldn't consider using this set at all.

@Birkal, yes, offensive CM Stratagem is great! It's very fast and powerful; often you don't even need to set-up a CM for it to sweep. Setting-up a CM is very helpful if you're attempting to sweep, though. Anyways, with its great Special Attack, Speed, and coverage, Stratagem is terrifying threat. I hope to see it used more.

Also, has anyone else had success with MixMence in CAP yet? It can easily beat many of the common CAP Pokemon and can easily Roost off the damage it takes. It can even run Earthquake without worrying about Blissey/Chansey because for some reason they're not very common in CAP... or at least that's from my experience. Does anyone know why this is? Perhaps it's because they can't really do much to a lot of the CAP Pokemon, including a lot of the special attackers.

Anyways, CAP is really fun so far! More people should play it! =)
if only that glitch with Necturna was fixed...

Apr 24th, 2012, 8:09:20 PM	#6
DTC Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,069 Mentor	So Tomohawk is a huge threat in the current CAP meta. How do you guys deal with it? The best way to deal with Tomohawk, in my opinion, is to simply have the least amount of Pokemon weak to it as possible. Tomohawk will most likely be around for most of the match. However, if your team does well against Tomohawk, the Tomohawk user will be less worried about keeping Tomohawk alive. Not only that, but Tomohawk will have less chances to set-up a Substitute on you. Having a weather starter of your own to ruin Hurricane's accuracy is also an effective way of crippling Tomohawk; a 70% accuracy Hurricane is much less reliable than a 100% accuracy Hurricane, obviously. There are also some very good checks out there for Tomohawk. Most Psychic-, Flying-, and Electric-types do well against it. Zapdos, Krilowatt, and Jirachi in particular do really against Tomohawk. Zapdos resists both of Tomohawk's STABS and has a super effective Thunderbolt to hit Tomohawk with. It also has Roost, so it can heal back all the health lost from beating Tomohawk. Krilowatt is immune to Tomohawk's Toxic, so Tomohawk can't try to stall it with Toxic, and it also resists Tomohawk's strongest STAB: Hurricane. It still gets hit pretty hard with Aura Sphere, but it's still a good check. Jirachi with Psychic does very well against Tomohawk. Tomohawk can't do much damage to it with Aura Sphere, even if Jirachi is running no HP or Special Defense EV's, and it can't even poison Jirachi. Meanwhile Jirachi can easily 2HKO Tomohawk with Psychic and recover back lost health later. Those are only some of the better checks I've found; there are a lot of good checks out there. Kitsunoh, Skarmory, Togekiss, Cyclohm, and Reuniclus are a few other checks out there. That's definitely not all, though! One Pokemon that I've enjoyed using lately is Choice Specs Syclant. Syclant @ Choice Specs Trait: Mountaineer EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP Timid Nature - Ice Beam / Blizzard - Bug Buzz - Earth Power - Hidden Power [Fire] Syclant can't switch-in on much, thanks to its bad defenses, but at least Mountaineer helps with that. Once it gets in, it'll do a lot of damage to anything that tries to switch-in. Its main advantage over Tail Glow Syclant is that it doesn't need to set-up to be very powerful. It also gets a free moveslot for something such as Hidden Power Fire, which hits those pesky Ferrothorn, Scizor, and Forretess hard. Blizzard can be used if you're using Syclant in hail; with Blizzard, Syclant is even more hard to switch-in to. It's a good thing Syclant has the Mountaineer ability, otherwise I wouldn't consider using this set at all. @Birkal, yes, offensive CM Stratagem is great! It's very fast and powerful; often you don't even need to set-up a CM for it to sweep. Setting-up a CM is very helpful if you're attempting to sweep, though. Anyways, with its great Special Attack, Speed, and coverage, Stratagem is terrifying threat. I hope to see it used more. Also, has anyone else had success with MixMence in CAP yet? It can easily beat many of the common CAP Pokemon and can easily Roost off the damage it takes. It can even run Earthquake without worrying about Blissey/Chansey because for some reason they're not very common in CAP... or at least that's from my experience. Does anyone know why this is? Perhaps it's because they can't really do much to a lot of the CAP Pokemon, including a lot of the special attackers. Anyways, CAP is really fun so far! More people should play it! =) if only that glitch with Necturna was fixed...