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ssbbm · Apr 25th, 2012, 10:48:28 PM

I also see a weakness to (along with Arceus-Fighting and CM Arceus-Ground) Shaymin-S.

I guess you could try running Ho-oh over something; possibly Gliscor? It hurts you in the sense that you have nothing to beat RP Groudon besides Giratina, but Giratina is already a pretty good counter, and unless RP Groudon runs Fire Punch, Ferrothorn can check it in a pinch.

Furthermore, the Zekrom problem that will be opened up can easily be dealt with by your Excadrill; in a pinch, Ferrothorn checks it too, so it's not really a big problem.

Try running something like

Ho-oh @ Leftovers / Life Orb
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd (you can speed creep to beat Kyogre, etc)
-Substitute
-Brave Bird
-Sacred Fire
-Roost

By running Ho-oh, you can lure and weaken Giratina, Kyogre and Lugia; these Pokemon all stop a Excadrill sweep.

Apr 25th, 2012, 10:48:28 PM	#8
ssbbm Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,001 Where you can play Pokemon with Singing Narwhals and Dancing Clouds	I also see a weakness to (along with Arceus-Fighting and CM Arceus-Ground) Shaymin-S. I guess you could try running Ho-oh over something; possibly Gliscor? It hurts you in the sense that you have nothing to beat RP Groudon besides Giratina, but Giratina is already a pretty good counter, and unless RP Groudon runs Fire Punch, Ferrothorn can check it in a pinch. Furthermore, the Zekrom problem that will be opened up can easily be dealt with by your Excadrill; in a pinch, Ferrothorn checks it too, so it's not really a big problem. Try running something like Ho-oh @ Leftovers / Life Orb 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd (you can speed creep to beat Kyogre, etc) -Substitute -Brave Bird -Sacred Fire -Roost By running Ho-oh, you can lure and weaken Giratina, Kyogre and Lugia; these Pokemon all stop a Excadrill sweep.