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Originally Posted by Fat prem
unlike previous metagames where i didnt care if sr is up, this metagame i like them up and hes the only bulky setter that isnt useless otherwise.
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You must have forgotten about Lileep! I think Lileep is great in this metagame, and I prefer it to Ferroseed because it has access to the reliable Recover (Storm Drain is a plus too!). Being able to hard counter Staryu, Chinchou, and most other bulky waters is great for teammates. Lileep + Larvesta can be really annoying. Lileep also has STAB Ancient Power/HP Rock to deal with Natu, which is nice. As for Drilbur, if Lileep is healthy enough and Drilbur isn't at +2, then it can probably survive an EQ and KO back (or at least come close to that). Ferroseed can probably do the same, though, and it gets Iron Barbs damage. It's also nice when your opponent is running sand and you get a free boost to your SpD. I would only use Ferroseed if I wanted to lay Spikes and SR.
You've got me interested in Smoochum and Chikorita :o
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Originally Posted by Fat prem
Ray Jay edit: lol you didn't spell teddiursa right
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Lol.