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Stalfos · May 28th, 2012, 2:15:41 AM

hi i'm helping with this project so i guess i should post!

Strict equivalents: I agree with the general consensus on IRC that these aren't really anything more than pointless bits of trivia; if I'm looking up Flamethrower, I'm not doing so out of an interest in random 95 BP moves lol. However, considering these are already onsite for a lot of moves and their presence isn't harming anything, I don't think there's much point in taking the time to go through and remove them all. In my opinion, the time it would take to do that would be much better spent fixing up outdated content.

More reliable/powerful alternatives: I definitely support listing better alternatives to shitty moves like Ember and Water Gun (I'd put Water Pulse in this category too, as if a Pokemon learns Surf, Scald, or Hydro Pump there's no good reason for it to ever use Water Pulse). I'm also a fan of listing stuff like Fire Blast and Overheat as more powerful but less reliable alternatives to Flamethrower (and Flamethrower as a weaker but more reliable alternative to Fire Blast). However, I think that's as far as we should take it; I'm personally against listing physical moves as "physical alternatives" to special moves (so no, I would not put Earthquake as a related move to Earth Power), and I definitely don't like Flame Charge's current RM section; other than typing, Flamethrower/Fire Blast and Flame Charge have nothing in common at all lol. (for the record I support removing the RM section from Flame Charge entirely)

Just my opinions; feel free to take them or leave them!

May 28th, 2012, 2:15:41 AM	#12
Stalfos see you space cowboy... Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 194	hi i'm helping with this project so i guess i should post! Strict equivalents: I agree with the general consensus on IRC that these aren't really anything more than pointless bits of trivia; if I'm looking up Flamethrower, I'm not doing so out of an interest in random 95 BP moves lol. However, considering these are already onsite for a lot of moves and their presence isn't harming anything, I don't think there's much point in taking the time to go through and remove them all. In my opinion, the time it would take to do that would be much better spent fixing up outdated content. More reliable/powerful alternatives: I definitely support listing better alternatives to shitty moves like Ember and Water Gun (I'd put Water Pulse in this category too, as if a Pokemon learns Surf, Scald, or Hydro Pump there's no good reason for it to ever use Water Pulse). I'm also a fan of listing stuff like Fire Blast and Overheat as more powerful but less reliable alternatives to Flamethrower (and Flamethrower as a weaker but more reliable alternative to Fire Blast). However, I think that's as far as we should take it; I'm personally against listing physical moves as "physical alternatives" to special moves (so no, I would not put Earthquake as a related move to Earth Power), and I definitely don't like Flame Charge's current RM section; other than typing, Flamethrower/Fire Blast and Flame Charge have nothing in common at all lol. (for the record I support removing the RM section from Flame Charge entirely) Just my opinions; feel free to take them or leave them! Last edited by Stalfos; May 28th, 2012 at 3:00:49 AM.