Trying to get into battles is stupidly aggravating, made even more so when the other guy is a clueless dude who hasn't really thought about making an actually usable Glitchmons team. However, it has been better than the existing alternative; the hurdles for playing Glitchmons on PO (and my falling out with PO in general) pretty much prevented me from bothering with this metagame. It's cool to see this metagame come to life, since it really doesn't belong to anybody. It's the only metagame that isn't regulated by anyone, and not built for any ulterior purpose (like PS! Hackmons).
I've been wondering if Final Gambit could be a justified, viable force in the metagame. For one thing, it actually hits Sturdy users and Lum/Chesto Berry users alike with 100% accuracy, unlike Sheer Cold / Spore. It seems it hasn't been explored all that much, with only a single post in the previous thread about it... and that was just an offhand suggestion to put it on Blissey. However, Blissey speed-ties with Machamp at best, and Chansey is obviously slower, so they don't strike me as the most promising users of Final Gambit.
From what I can see, the ideal Final Gambit users would have Base Speeds of at least 107 (Choice Scarf Machamp), maybe 111 (Gengar), or some other means of being faster than Machamp/Gengar (e.g. Chlorophyll Tangrowth). Obviously, high HP is desirable, as well as perhaps a lack of weakness to Stealth Rock. We could come up with something like:
(I am testing this)
Mewtwo @ Lum Berry
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 220 Spe Bold
- Substitute / Tail Glow
- Psychic / Psystrike
- Final Gambit
(this is just the listed Tangrowth with Final Gambit instead of Spore)
Tangrowth @ Lum Berry
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Modest
- Tail Glow
- Seed Flare / Energy Ball
- Blue Flare / Flamethrower
- Final Gambit
Now, I'm pretty sure that the main problem has become apparent. Why make a suicide Pokémon when you can just make Generic Sweeper #74683? Thus, I mostly see Final Gambit being used on a sweeper as a sort of bailout move, kind of similarly to the way Spore is used, when switching out and attempting a sweep later isn't that feasible (e.g. your counter is about to turn the sweep around on you). This would be a much faster way of "switching out" than Spore, at the cost of the user.
It's worth noting that Gengar is particularly important for a Final Gambit user, since Final Gambit doesn't faint the user if it fails (though as of this writing it does on PS!). So if it switches into Final Gambit, if the Final Gambit user is faster, it could just switch to an attack that nukes Gengar.
Last edited by capefeather; May 29th, 2012 at 12:21:42 PM.