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Old Jun 3rd, 2012, 12:11:48 PM   #15
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Default Arceus Overviews

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Originally Posted by Fat Furai View Post
I don't think mentioning Salamence and Rayquaza is a must, just mention it can take an Ice Beam from Lugia unlike other Dragons. Demonstrating +1 Dragon Arceus's power is also overview material in my opinion, because when you look at the overview you want to know why you should use the Pokemon. +1 hitting harder than Palkia and Dialga is a huge bonus, as the two are very familiar in the Ubers metagame.
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Originally Posted by Fat trickroom
You don't have to mention Dragon Arceus hits harder after Calm Minds. I think you are right, just drop that off and Salamence and Rayquaza mentions.
Trickroom and I both agree it is not necessary to mention how a +1 Arceus-Dragon hits harder than an unboosted Diagla/Palkia barring Choice Specs for the reasons already stated. Yeah, Rayquaza and Salamence aren't that important. Thank you both for your input!

Arceus-Dragon has been updated in my second post of this thread.

The overviews for Arceus-Fire, Arceus-Rock, and Arceus-Steel will follow later today. Arceus-Fighting (which I would still like to reserve) will eventually follow. If possible, I would also like to reserve Arceus-Psychic.

Overviews are as follows:


Arceus-Fire

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Comments:
I took some flavor inspiration from the D/P overview. Thanks go to CottonPuff for giving me permission to put this up!
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Originally Posted by Fat Furai View Post
- Reshiram mention.
- No sun mention at all.
- Reshiram along with Ho-Oh is mentioned.

- Sun is mentioned, unless I’m reading this wrong and you don’t want it mentioned.


- Got rid of useless information, added flavorful first and last sentences with a bit in between.

- I mentioned his main counter Kyogre. Should I go into more depth such as how scarf Kyogre can OHKO it (though it hates switching in on Thunder/Thunderbolt)? For example:

Arceus-Fire is also reliant on the sun to reach His full potential, something which is quickly removed by the sea titan Kyogre who can swiftly drown Him with the use of Choice Scarf.


Comment Addressed by shrang

- Technically Ho-Oh does get Calm Mind. Is this enough to warrant a change despite the fact it is extremely rare? Maybe the sentence could be changed like so:

Although some of His fiery creations such as Reshiram and Ho-Oh have dual STABs and outclass even Him in firepower, He has superior initial speed and viable access to both Recover and Calm Mind.

Thoughts?


Comment Addressed by Furai - Implemented

- Should I mention the Flame Plate somewhere? As in the first sentence? Thoughts?

Comment Addressed by Furai - Implemented


Arceus-Rock
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I took some flavor inspiration from the D/P overview.

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Originally Posted by Fat Furai View Post
- A Rayquaza mention should do it
- Rayquaza is now mentioned explicitly in the overview.


- I got rid of all the useless information along with certain clichés. I also added flavor to the first/last sentences and a bit in between. Last sentence is a bit shaky. If you have a better suggestion please tell me.

- Kept the competitive information while making it more concise.

- I am still editing this overview as I am displeased with how it flows.

Finished (for now...).


Arceus-Steel
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Comments:
Credits to the D/P and B/W overview for some flavor inspiration.

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Originally Posted by Fat Furai View Post
- Mention that while Steel- STAB hits common Dragon- Pokemon, it is resisted by plenty of common Pokemon: Kyogre, Palkia, Dialga..
- No mention of Arceus-Steel being immune to Toxic Spikes and resistant to Stealth Rock? Arceus Steel can also set up on Blissey or Chansey easily even when they have Snatch. trickroom
- STAB Steel type attacks being resisted by common Pokémon is mentioned.

- Immunity to Toxic Spikes and resistance to Stealth Rock is mentioned.

- Arceus-Steel easily setting up on Chansey and Blissey is mentioned (What if they have Thunder Wave? - Other Option though).


- For the last flavor sentence, I am still not entirely sure of it have improved it. First sentence may now be a bit odd though. If you have a better one, please tell me!

- The resistances mentioned as most notable can be changed. If you think there is another important resistance that should be added (or removed) please tell me.

- I added significantly more competitive information along with toning down the flavor.

- Iron-ically, heheheh.

- Swords Dance and Calm Mind sets mentioned.

- This was by far the hardest overview I had to write so far (That last sentence...). Also my seventh (Arceus-Rock was after).

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As always, feel free to comment on these overviews. If more (or less) competitive information or flavor is required, don't hesitate to give your opinion.
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Last edited by Superimp; Jun 4th, 2012 at 10:34:53 PM. Reason: Arceus-Steel Updated
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