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Originally Posted by Fat FlareBlitz

No they aren't.

Individually, they are both valid. Obviously Staraptor would be considered banworthy for a different reason than Chansey. But you can say that Staraptor's inability to take common attacks would make it less-banworthy (as I actually did in my suspect vote, if you cant switch in you are at a huge disadvantage).....and you can say that Chansey's weakness to common physical attacks makes it less-banworthy (which is the discussion atm)

Originally Posted by Fat FlareBlitz

That is, it's not just that any given battle will focus on one Pokemon, it's also that any given battle will be "substantially impacted" by that Pokemon's existence even if neither team is using it.

That's exactly what I meant.

Originally Posted by Fat FlareBlitz

If physical attackers are only prominent because Chansey caused most special attackers to go extinct, it's entirely invalid to say that the metagame is acceptable, even if it were the case that Chansey couldn't handle physical attackers (I mean, it's not, but).

His argument is that physical attackers are already prominent and viable before Chansey enters the tier (assuming it even will drop), which is valid.

And Chansey will not cause special attackers to "go extinct", just like it didn't do that when it was UU earlier.

Originally Posted by Fat FlareBlitz

I'm not sure why you're assuming that we're going to theoryban the thing - I'm just making my current opinion on it known.

What I'm saying is that you can't have a current opinion on it because it's not even legal in this metagame. At best your opinion isn't current, it's months old. Your posts about a current metagame with Chansey in it are pure theorymon. And things like this which imply a decision has been made already don't help either:

Originally Posted by Fat FlareBlitz's previous post

I expect to see a lot more of it before we boot that fat bitch back upstairs.