Originally Posted by Fat Anikrahman1995
Dude you told me to RP first, thats what I was referring to,i.e, whether swords dance or rock polish be used first. Why are you arguing with me anyway? I have already proven what needs to be proven unless you believe that Heatran is better. Choice Scarf Heatran= Free Kyogre switchin whereas if it were terrakion, it wouldnt be so eager to switch in. Terrakion also has the bonus of smashing one of its switchins(Giratina-O) while the other can be double switched in on(Giratina vs Reshiram scenario). Now I want you to stop arguing with me just for the sake of arguing, and prove to me how heatran does better than Terrakion.
252SpAtk Heatran (Neutral) Overheat in Sun vs 252HP/0SpDef Multitype Arceus (Neutral): 66% - 77% (294 - 346 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.
252SpAtk Heatran (Neutral) Overheat in Sun vs 4HP/0SpDef Multitype Arceus (Neutral): 76% - 90% (294 - 346 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.
252SpAtk Heatran (Neutral) Overheat in Sun vs 88HP/0SpDef Multitype Arceus (Neutral): 72% - 85% (294 - 346 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.
You bring up Giratina when you dont even realize that Xatu walls it. And Heatran is walled by many things including Giratina and cannot even revenge Arceus. Well it can revenge darkrai and mewtwo, well redundancy isnt welcome, you see? Yeah they switch out to Kyogre while you try to revenge them whereas Blaziken revenges both with a 100% accurate move and Kyogre fears Hi Jump Kick. This is an offensive team. We should use pokemon that are difficult to switch into. Terrakion has one counter(Giratina) which hates facing Reshiram as it may lose a teammate in that scenario. Blaziken has one check which is Extremekiller which Terrakion takes on handily.
Im not arguing, I just brought up a weakness that the current team has, which is neccessary if it is to be successful. I think double dance Terrakion is a bad fit; on the contrary, SubSD Terrakion can readily dispose of both Giratina forms. I already said that I like the idea of Terrakion; just not your set. One more thing: you say that we should use pokemon hard to switch into, correct? Well, Heatrans overheat hits harder than Terrakion's close combat in neutral
weather. Giratina also isn't Terrakion's only counter.