I dont even understand what Sphyxius means by saying that Ho-Oh's only move is Sacred Fire. If you use the Honko Calculator, you will notice that most enemies in ubers are damaged more by Brave Bird than by Sacred Fire. The reason for this is that there are plenty of fire resists but not many Flying resists. Ho-Oh is viable is sandstorm too. Why would you use Ho-Oh in a weatherless team anyway? If you do, then you are doing it wrong.
Lugia is neutered by a faster pokemon with sleep or toxic? How many common toxic users are fast? Darkrai uses Dark Void but Lugia is not meant to handle Darkrai anyway - that is Ho-Oh's job. BTW did you know Lugia's bulk allows it to use a substitute set? The idea is to set up a substitue againt a pokemon that cant do much to Lugia, whirlwind it out and toxic the next pokemon as it tries to break the substitute. BTW with Stealth Rock, Ho-Oh 2HKOs all pokemon in ubers with a moveset of Sacred Fire, Brave Bird and Earthquake - this is of course if Sacred Fire burns the first time.
EDIT: Ninja'd like a boss.
EDIT2: Giratina is beaten by the substitute+roost set. Giratina cannot do anything against Ho-Oh. Should have mentioned that the pokemon that look to counter it directly are 2HKOed. In most of my matches, Stealth Rock is not out early in the game as I lead with Deoxys-S.
Last edited by Anikrahman1995; Jul 4th, 2012 at 10:42:00 AM.