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Originally Posted by Fat Go10
And who the hell would send their Zekrom on Groudon ? You want to lure and remove Groudon from the battle, Zekrom is one, if not the best, Mixed for this purpose. If you just want to OHKO Groudon, use something else like SpecsDialga or Kyurem-W/B, but that's not the point here. Your logic is pretty bad dude.
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I never said anything about someone switching in a Zekrom on Groudon. However Groudon can easily switch into Zekrom on a predicted electric type move and OHKO with Earthquake. Though you could just constantly spam Draco Meteor against teams with Groudon to catch it on the switch, you will have problems if Groudon does not switch in. While Zekrom can be used as a lure for Groudon, you have to rely a lot on prediction and luck.
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Originally Posted by Fat Go10
It's not because you use Voltswitch that it made a good option. Voltswitch is one of the last and worst option for MixKrom, you want to lure and kill Mons and you have the tools for it with these 4 moves, why would you use Voltswitch when you can kill them ?
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I was refering to Zekrom in general, not specifically MixKrom. Scarf Zekrom for example is better with Volt Switch than with Focus Blast, as being locked into Focus Blast pretty much forces you to switch anyway due to its bad accuracy and how weak it is unless it hits super effectively.
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Originally Posted by Fat Go10
As an offense user, I can assure that forcing the switch isnt as good as you think. Luring and killing Groudon for the all match is far better than just "forcing" the switch. Test it and you'll understand, but it seems everything you're talking about is pure theory ...
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Forcing a switch will often neutralize a Pokemon for the rest of the match, especially if entry hazards are up or if it is at less than half health. Also, with the many special attackers in the Tier, Groudon finds it difficult to switch in most of the time, and is only really safe switching in on defensive Pokemon, or on electric type moves (coming from Zekrom for instance).
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Originally Posted by Fat Go10
Groudon is one of the best switch-in with GroundCeus and Ferrothorn. Unless he know you have Draco Meteor or you're Mixed, he'll come for sure.
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From what you are saying, Groudon is not one of the best switch-ins for Zekrom, if Zekrom lures and kills Groudon so easily, do you think that people will want to switch it in?
This conversation is getting off topic, as this thread is not meant for discussing Zekrom's viability against Groudon.
It seems to me that your entire argument of how Zekrom is a better mixed attacker than Kyurem-B is that Zekrom lures Groudon, while Kyurem-B makes it switch out. Kyurem-B however has a better special movepool than Zekrom, due to its STAB Ice Beam, while it only misses out on STAB Bolt Strike on the physical side. Bolt Strike, considering that Outrage hits harder coming off Kyurem-B than Bolt Strike does off Zekrom, is really only useful against Jirachi as Focus Blast covers all other steel type pokemon other than Skarmory, who doesn't have enough special bulk to stand up to Kyurem-W anyway and can do nothing against it but phaze.