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Originally Posted by Fat Varfor

I never said anything about someone switching in a Zekrom on Groudon. However Groudon can easily switch into Zekrom on a predicted electric type move and OHKO with Earthquake. Though you could just constantly spam Draco Meteor against teams with Groudon to catch it on the switch, you will have problems if Groudon does not switch in. While Zekrom can be used as a lure for Groudon, you have to rely a lot on prediction and luck.

I said it many times before, and i'm going to say it again : if you dont know how MixKrom works, how a mixed works, what the uber metagame is, then stop. You use your mindgame in every turn in uber, every turn, if you dont like it, then dont play in this tier. You're saying that MixKrom isnt suited for luring Groudon because he cant OHKO him ? Come on ... do you understand how ridiculous you are ? I'm trying to help you, you know.

Originally Posted by Fat Varfor

I was refering to Zekrom in general, not specifically MixKrom. Scarf Zekrom for example is better with Volt Switch than with Focus Blast, as being locked into Focus Blast pretty much forces you to switch anyway due to its bad accuracy and how weak it is unless it hits super effectively.

Yeah, you're talking about Zekrom in general but the discussion is about MixKrom, thanks for the concern thought.

Originally Posted by Fat Varfor

From what you are saying, Groudon is not one of the best switch-ins for Zekrom, if Zekrom lures and kills Groudon so easily, do you think that people will want to switch it in?

Is it a troll or something ? Scarf/BandKrom or any physically oriented sets and MixKrom are completely different. Still, when you dont know what the sets is, most of the time, you're going to bring Groudon who can take some hit since MixKrom isnt that common. Your lacks of experience is incredible, not only in Uber, but in general since its one of the base you should have ...

Originally Posted by Fat Varfor

This conversation is getting off topic, as this thread is not meant for discussing Zekrom's viability against Groudon.

Yeah, you guys are off topic, i'm not the one talking about Groudon, I just said Kyurem-B is going to be a less interesting mixed than Zekrom.

Originally Posted by Fat Varfor

It seems to me that your entire argument of how Zekrom is a better mixed attacker than Kyurem-B is that Zekrom lures Groudon, while Kyurem-B makes it switch out.

Too bad if it's the only thing you understood.

Originally Posted by Fat Varfor

Kyurem-B however has a better special movepool than Zekrom, due to its STAB Ice Beam, while it only misses out on STAB Bolt Strike on the physical side. Bolt Strike, considering that Outrage hits harder coming off Kyurem-B than Bolt Strike does off Zekrom, is really only useful against Jirachi as Focus Blast covers all other steel type pokemon other than Skarmory, who doesn't have enough special bulk to stand up to Kyurem-W anyway and can do nothing against it but phaze.

KB hit hard, really hard, i'm not saying the opposite. However, when compared with Zekrom, who take less on SR and can come more than KB, dont let a free setup for Arceus and kill almost the same thing, Zekrom is, IMO, better on the paper (didnt tried it, like most of us anyway).