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Originally Posted by Fat ShakeItUp

Wartortle is just awful. This thing cannot spin vs. any Ghost-type in the tier since it has no form of recovery. Spiritomb beats it 1 on 1, as does Cofagrigus, Rotom, and Dusknoir even. The only way to reliably get a spin off is to run Foresight, and if you run that, you have to forgo Haze, which means that every Pokemon with Substitute / Steel- or Poison-Type will use you as set-up fodder as you attempt to Rapid Spin. Even with Foresight, Rotom outpeeds and slaughters Wartortle. Also, since this thing has no form of recovery, it can get weakened easily, especially since it doesn't even have Leftovers. Cryogonal is a much, much better choice due to recovery, the ability to not be set-up fodder since it actually has room to run Haze, good Special Attack, and the ability do major damage to the Ghost-types in the tier. Even Sandslash is a better option since it can at least dent Rotom with Stone Edge, and set up an SD on Spiritomb and Cofagrigus and kill them. Sorry, but once again, this should go under 'What Not To Use'.

I agree with this sentiment above. Wartortle is hardly usable even in NU, where there are just as many things that counter it in that tier as there are things that counter Wartortle in RU. Against a few teams, Foresight becomes a waste of a moveslot. Furthermore, if you need a Bulky Water in either NU or RU there are many fully-evolved Pokes screaming for attention in each respective tier, and you can choose a different and inherently better Rapid Spinner after replacing it wholesale (even Hitmonchan is a better Rapid Spinner, and it has better things to do thanks to Iron Fist).