Originally Posted by Fat jaymartin13
What would be a good strategy for a team using Heracross and Gliscor? I have been thinking about changing Umbreon. I like him and all, but I think he may be replaced easily. Also, what would be some Pokemon that you would use along with Gliscor and Heracross? Thanks for the post BTW. It was the type of info I was looking for.
I'm not really sure of a reason for why these 2 Pokemon would be used together. Gliscor usually wants a sandstorm to abuse sand veil and to wear down opponents, while Heracross, while being frail and holding a status orb, will die extremely quick by sandstorm. It would be possible to use them together if you were to change the Heracross set to, say, Swords Dance, but for the most potential I'd recommend getting rid of one of them. However, since you're training your Pokemon on a game, this becomes less appealing so I'll just assume you're using both.
You should develop a plan. For example, if Heracross is going to be the main sweeper, you want him to be alive at the end, and healthy enough to sweep. If you want something else to be your focus on an offensive team, hopefully Heracross and Gliscor will eliminate or weaken its counters.
The first thing to making an offensive team after identifying which Pokemon you want to use, is identifying which Pokemon pose a threat to them.
For example, opposing Gliscor, Skarmory, Forretress, Dusknoir, and basically just defensive threats are a problem for Heracross.
Your Gliscor is threatened by water-types in general such as Milotic, Vaporeon, Starmie, and Suicune.
Then you need to find out what can eliminate these threats. Since you don't want legendaries, 2 very useful options in Celebi and Shaymin suddenly disappear. And without electric-type legendaries Raikou and Rotom-a, you're left with Blissey, Sceptile, Jolteon, and Electivire. The latter 3 are less effective than the legendaries, and Blissey isn't really offensive material.
You could try another fighting type such as Infernape or Lucario, while also finding a counter to the Pokemon that threaten them in some way, ghost-types, Skarmory, Hippowdon, Swampert, Gyarados, Zapdos, etc. Infernape can counter some of these himself simply by changing his moveset, like my using Grass Knot, ThunderPunch, or Stone Edge. They both help Heracross by scouting the opponent's counters and weakening them so that the other one can eliminate it and continue its sweep.
However, don't use both Infernape and Lucario, unless your team can help counter all of their similar weaknesses.