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chicobo329 · Jul 29th, 2012, 9:24:51 PM

A fun thread indeed! Lemme throw out Electivire:

Electivire
HP: 75
ATK: 123
DEF: 67
SPC: 85 (85 over 95)
SPE: 95

Rock Slide
Earthquake
Thunderbolt / Thunder
Hyper Beam

Electivire trades its Special for Attack and loses 10 Speed in favor of some slightly better (but still mediocre) bulk.

RockQuake (EarthSlide?) seems to be a popular move combination. Thunderbolt is your STAB and for Waters but your Special is much lower than the monster 123 Attack. Thunder can make your STAB hurt more but it doesn't carry any advantage over Thunderbolt other than raw power and it has the same paralysis rate of 10% in this gen. Hyper Beam off 123 Attack can destroy quite a few things but the only means you have to raise your Attack is Meditate.

There's a ton of other moves it can use though but I don't know of how particularly useful they'd be. Rolling Kick is weaker than Submission but slightly more accurate (85% over 80%), has no recoil, and carries a 30% flinch chance. Maybe you could do something with a combo of Thunder Wave + Rolling Kick? You can set up Screens, but there's better Pokemon for that and you'd be wasting the potential of your Attack stat. Ice Punch would give you some great coverage but it uses its weaker Special.

Jul 29th, 2012, 9:24:51 PM	#36
chicobo329 Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 32	A fun thread indeed! Lemme throw out Electivire: Electivire HP: 75 ATK: 123 DEF: 67 SPC: 85 (85 over 95) SPE: 95 Rock Slide Earthquake Thunderbolt / Thunder Hyper Beam Electivire trades its Special for Attack and loses 10 Speed in favor of some slightly better (but still mediocre) bulk. RockQuake (EarthSlide?) seems to be a popular move combination. Thunderbolt is your STAB and for Waters but your Special is much lower than the monster 123 Attack. Thunder can make your STAB hurt more but it doesn't carry any advantage over Thunderbolt other than raw power and it has the same paralysis rate of 10% in this gen. Hyper Beam off 123 Attack can destroy quite a few things but the only means you have to raise your Attack is Meditate. There's a ton of other moves it can use though but I don't know of how particularly useful they'd be. Rolling Kick is weaker than Submission but slightly more accurate (85% over 80%), has no recoil, and carries a 30% flinch chance. Maybe you could do something with a combo of Thunder Wave + Rolling Kick? You can set up Screens, but there's better Pokemon for that and you'd be wasting the potential of your Attack stat. Ice Punch would give you some great coverage but it uses its weaker Special.