Originally Posted by Fat superbadd
Usage certainly does determine how good a pokemon is. *rolls eyes* Remember how things like blaziken and manaphy weren't even top ten when they were banned? I simply proved your stupid assertion wrong on how everything breaks its sub and now your talking to me as if you already knew, albeit with a defensive sarcastic tone? lol. Never did I say just because raikou can set up on jolteon is superior and I didn't claim that priority is a death sentence it's just better to survive priority than to die in one shot not doing shit; quit putting words in my mouth. Remember how in my post I said it can set up on some jirachi?
Jolteon has shitty bulk it's 2HKO by LO tornadus hurricane something it RESISTS. Jolteon can't take a resisted hit more than 2 times and you're somehow claiming it has acceptable bulk, that's just pure bs. Calm down btw this is pokemon, not politics. xD I also asked if it had anything over raikou other than insignificant speed and a few gimmicks like baton pass and wish. List it or I won't argue with someone who's hot headed.
You attacked me first. I'm not upset at all. Also, don't call me stupid then give put a smily face in your post. Kind of hypocritical...
I never said Ditto wasn't good. You just said that he's "THE revenge killer", and he's not, and usage stats support that. There's a difference between not being top 10 and being straight up NU.
And I hope you didn't actually think I meant LITERALLY everything breaks Raikou's substitutes. Even if you did, setting up on Jellicent isn't exactly a huge accomplishment.
I never said Jolteon had even average bulk, just that it was acceptable for his role. Jolteon isn't going to be eating many hits, so he doesn't need to be bulky.
In a nutshell, Jolteon has versatility over Raikou. He can revenge kill, sweep, and maim bulky pokemon all in one set without needing a turn of setup. Raikou can't. That's why he's better, and it's all because of his apparently "insignificant" Speed.