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Originally Posted by Fat Jibaku
I Groudon is perfectly capable of cleaning up teams without a lot of teammate support.
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I can agree with Groudon in tier 1 because it OHKOes most checks that come in on the wrong moves. Palkia coming in on Rock Polish Groudon will get smashed next turn, Defensive Kyogre comes in on SD Life Orb Groudon and get OHKOed next turn. Sorry firecape, but Jibaku really sounds more convincing on Groudon
Oh yeah I am a Groudon fan, Groundceus sux:P
Ho-Oh gets harmed too much by Stealth Rock even with Regenerator. Just get something to Roar it out with Stealth Rock, next turn its a dead turkey :)
How come Cresselia is not in the threat list? She got approved anyway, while Lugia sort of makes her suck, Cresselia can still set up Dual Screens and Lunar Dance next turn. Cresselia also beats non Fire Blast Mewtwo with Toxic/Thunder Wave :) Since Groudon is in tier 1, Cresselia should get a place in tier 3 IMO, if Psychic Arceus makes it there, Cresselia should. Also, Levitate is a huge advantage!
Parasect does not suck that much. It can defeat Calm Mind Arceus with Leech Seed, Spore and X-Scissors. Conveniently, Latias gets 2HKOed by X-Scissors easily while Kyogre gets nailed by Seed Bomb. Also, Dark Arceus loses to Parasect. 100% Sleep inducing move is cool enough. That said, I believe
Gyarados should be TIER 1 because of its sheer power. Just ask firecape, Hugendugen or Colonel_M if you have any doubts about it.
Missing Hydreigon somewhere. Probably in Tier 3 since it does have some uses. If Gengar gets in the list, Hydreigon should. It has U-Turn and STAB Draco Meteor so I believe it deserves a spot in Tier 3.
Where's Deoxys? Outclassed by Deoxys-A but it is still an Uber.