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Old Aug 7th, 2012, 7:30:10 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by Fat Episode36 View Post
Yeah, there are quite a few threats that really just take this whole team apart, as previous people have pointed out. Otherwise a pretty decent sun team, though, even if sun/ninetales isn't the greatest. Wobb/Dug is always lol-worthy, but they are easily countered by any decent battler who knows how they work.

Victini is pretty good on sun teams, but once the opponent realizes it's scarfed, it will be easily countered by Pokemon such as Heatran and faster revenge killers. Venusaur is always a staple on sun teams, so good job there at least. Ninetales set looks fine. I don't like the Forretress set, but I understand why it's being used. With Wobb/Dug, I'd prefer more entry hazards to even the playing field, since you're basically fighting opposing teams 4 on 6 because Wobb and Dug are so unreliable. While Forretress does well in sun because it basically can't take a fire attack anyways, I'd probably rather see something like Starmie in its place. However, then you'd need a steel type, which would mean blowing up your whole team, because I'd probably suggest AB Heatran or some such.

In any case, good effort and I like Wobb/Dug myself, even if they aren't always that great against good battlers. Props for trying to make Victini viable too.
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I would have to respectfully disagree on how wobb/trio is easily countered. Yes, the combo isn't unbeatable, but between U-Turn on Victini and Volt Switch on forretress, it's really easy to lure and then switch into a trapper. For some pokemon, such as Heatran/Ninetales/any firetype for dugtrio, or choiced pokemon for wobb, a switch in=death. Beyond U-turn/Volt Switch, wobb/trio is also really good when double switches are involved.

This leads to my second point. We tried spikes over Gyro Ball and spikes over HP ice, but in the end, we thought an offensive forretress was our best bet. Without Gyro Ball, threats such as scarf terrakion or DD haxorous will tear this team apart. Also, HP Ice is a hard counter for Gliscor/Landorus/Landorus-T and a soft counter for Dragonite. Also, because of the trapping that wobb/trio creates, this team actually forces less switches than expected, so the investment in spikes is not needed.

And we tried other spinners such as Claydol, Donphan, and Starmie. We came to the conclusion that Forretress is simply too good.

Thanks for the rate!
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