[Trinitrotoluene]

Originally Posted by Fat Cherub Agent

Can't Final Gambit just be in the AC of the Scarf set?

Mabye mention how it's very, very similar to Darmanitan?

Also the Final Gambit set likes Wish support. Blissey heals 3/4ths of Victini's HP and attracts Fighting moves Victini can come in on

I can mention its similarities to Darmanitan. Also, the Scarf and Final Gambit sets play extremely differently, as ginganinja stated. Wish support for the Final Gambit set is something I can mention.

Originally Posted by Fat ginganinja

The Sets play too differently, one plays as more of a suicide lead, the other an actual revenge killer. The two sets also require a different EV spread, and I just think that its better off with two different sets.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Fat ThePillsburyDoughBoy

Call me crazy, but is a specially based mixed set possible? V-Create has an insane amount of base power (180) and it is backed by STAB, meaning even with little investment it still has the possibility to 2HKO Chansey. In addition, his special movepool has a large variety of options but most importantly a secondary STAB in Psychic. He does receive a large amount of competition from Infernape, but one of his perks includes having Thunderbolt to better get past bulky Waters.

Victini @ Life Orb
Trait: Victory Star
EVs: 56 Atk / 200 SAtk / 252 Spd
Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- V-create
- Thunderbolt / Energy Ball
- Psychic
- Focus Blast

Thunderbolt / Energy Ball is a toss up. In exchange for hitting Jellicent, Vaporeon, and Politoed for less you have the ability to hit Gastrodon much harder. Tentacruel is already taken care of with STAB Psychic.

The purely physical sets hit much harder, and can break stall better than a mixed set.

Originally Posted by Fat Electrolyte

I think that, though they might play a little differently, the scarf and band can be combined, and the life orb can be it's own set. The band and scarf sets are pretty much the same thing; they have almost the same moveset, and the same EVs.

And about PDB's set, what are you hitting harder with LO Thunderbolt that you're not hitting as hard with Fusion Bolt? The only benedfits to that set is Psychic, Energy Ball, and Focus Blast; which IMO aren't worth their own set. Still, Focus Blast nailing Heatrans for Sun support sounds delicious.

Trinitrotoluene, don't forget to stress on Victini's strengths over other fairies- V-Create, Fusion Bolt, and ability to work wonders under the sun.

The Scarf and Band sets play extremely different games. One (Scarf) aims to revenge kill weakened threats, while the other (Band) aims to demolish walls with its powerful V-create.