Originally Posted by Fat Jimera0
As for Ice Punch, I'm not convinced that it's awful, and it might have some use. It does, for example, allow Dragonite to beat Gliscor 1 on 1 outside of rain, something it couldn't do before. It also hits Landorus-T, who is shaping up to be a pretty formidable check. I think it at least deserves a look before being dismissed out of hand.
I might deserve a look, though I think Dragonite is suffering from moveslot syndrome as it is and Ice Punch has downright horrible coverage alongside Outrage/Dragon Claw. It might not OHKO Gliscor, but I never had a problem with the flying bat, always beating it one on one at +1 (obviously, Dragonite can't set up on it, but if it already has, he'll win).
Some calcs Outrage vs 252/184+ Gliscor:
Choice Band (Adamant 252 Atk): 60.2% - 71,2% 2HKO
+1 Offensive DD (Adamant 252 Atk) @ Lefties/Lum: 60.2% - 71.2% 2HKO
+1 Offensive DD (Adamant 252 Atk) @ Life Orb: 78.2% - 92.4% 2HKO (possible OHKO after SR).
+1 Bulky DD (Adamant 44 Atk): 52% - 61.3% 2HKO after SR
More importantly, Waterfall can be used on Rain teams, offering far better coverage and also putting dents in Gliscor:
Waterfall in Rain vs 252/184+ Gliscor:
Choice Band (252+): 80.2% - 94.9% 2HKO (possible OHKO after SR)
+1 Offensive DD (252+): 80.2% - 94.9% 2HKO (possible OHKO after SR)
+1 Offensive DD (252+) @ Life Orb: 104.5% - 123.2% OHKO
+1 Bulky DD (44+): 68.9% - 81.4% 2HKO after SR
So, I don't think Ice Punch should be mentioned anywhere other than OO, if at all. Dragonite always had Ice Punch, and never used it, for good reason. Also, what would it go over? If Roost is used alongside DD, Fire Punch/EQ are needed to hit the pesky Steel types running rampant in OU. And Gliscor can't KO a Dragonite at full health anyway.
I can see that Ice Punch would have it's uses (like Thunderpunch, btw) but I think it's too situational to merit a moveslot on something that needs all the coverage it can get.