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Originally Posted by Fat X5Dragon

Articuno @ Life Orb / Expert Belt
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest/ Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Agility
- Hurricane
- Ice Beam
/
- Substitute
- Icy Wind
- Hurricane
- HP Water/Ground
/
@Lum
- Agility
- HP Water/Ground
- Hurricane
- Ice Beam

Of all of them, the first set is probably "most" effective, in my opinion, though Hp Ground > Ice Beam may be better (dont quote me on that), for coverage purposes. Also, with Stealth Rocks and Substitute, along with agility, I think a Petaya berry could be very useful so that your max damage output can increase (and Agility = Speed, so cool). I'm personally not seeing this pokemon rising to stardom, but I think it has a lot of potential.

Originally Posted by Fat Smaug 2

Porygon2@Eviolite
Calm
Trace
252 HP, 4 Def, 252 SpD
- Discharge
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Magic Coat

Like you said, it can be effective. Proper (can be shortened to pro, if you will) prediction will make this set a lot more useful. Do you run Special Defense due to the advent of Rain teams? Otherwise, especially because you said it was under the sun, Terrakion may be a huge problem.
However, most teams come equipped with a counter, so, that. But, I think either mixed defenses, or to a greater extent defense, is probably going to due a little better. Fighting type are everywhere. MyLittleKeldeo
I think this has good potential the first time you utilize it, though :D

Originally Posted by Fat Ames

Moltres @ Life Orb
Modest, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
-Agility
-Hurricane
-Fire Blast
-HP Water

Oh, Moltres. That guy c: Mostly what I said about Articuno, sorry :p Also, even in rain, I would suggest HP Ground, as the main counter will generally be Heatran, and it has better coverage with your other moves. Do you have any replays of this? I dont generally ask, but I wanted to see HP Water at play, and how Moltres adapts to the current metagame.

Originally Posted by Fat iamQmai

Tentacruel @ Choice Scarf
252 SpA, 252 Spe, 4HP/Def/SpD
Modest/Timid
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam(/Blizzard in hail)
Giga Drain
Sludge Wave/HP Fire

Tentacruel is pretty darn awesome, to say the least. But, looking pasts it's cool factor, how scary is this guy's 80 base Special Attack?
Even with a scarf, I think Pokemon will still be able to eat it's attacks. And, Hp Fire probably should be the main slash, but that is opinion based. I think reliably killing > Surprise kills, but, if you base a team around him (don't), Tentacruel might net 2 kills, instead of one.

Any logs of this set would be helpful. In theory it looks cool; 100 base speed is awesome :D But, I think even a Swords Dance set would work better :L



Anyway, I have a bad Kingdra set that has led me to many victories on many occasions, due to the diverse moves that I provided. It is very similar to the already posted "Mixed Dragon Dance," however, it was made for a sun team as a counter to Heatran (meaning obligatory Water Stab is nullified), so I had to work my way around it's walling my Kingdra.

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 144 Spd / 112 Atk / 252 SAtk
Mild Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Ice Beam

Dragon Dance is definitely physical wall bait, especially when the sun is up. HP Ground, as stated, is there to hit opposing Heatran which have the potential to really hurt sun teams. Hp Fire used to be in this spot, but I never found it as useful. In any case, I believe HP Ground and Ice Beam receive near perfect if not perfect coverage, while Outrage is one of the best Stab moves. This is especially the case after some Dragon Dances.

The Evs are a little arsed, as all I did was swap them around from the "Mixed Dragon Dance" set to see fit to my new set. Max Special attack because Outrage + Dragon Dance, and Dragon Dance boosts speed whilst Life Orb allows for stronger attacks on the special side. Mild Nature allows for maximum special attack, while taking out defense in the process (Mind you, this is made to combat Heatrans, which are generally Special Attackers).

My favourite kind of Pokemon are ones that can potentially hit from both sides. Not only does this make the opponent have to predict better, but it can also confuse them. Kingdra is a really great Mixed attacker, and Dragon Dance helps it achieve maximum confusion with it's special moves.

The only problem I see with excluding Hp Fire, is Ferrothorn. But, with teammates such as Sunny Day Heatran, I think this Kingdra does good to it's name, without making me have to sacrifice a team slot for something "better," for the simple case of it being able to reliably take out opposing Pokemon, rather than just surprise them and then get taken out one hit.