Join Date: Jul 2007
Originally Posted by Fat alkinesthetase
i am now curious about what you study
Atmospheric Science, with a specialization in climate science / global warming. I was in the radar truck for part of a project in a weather radar elective course.
Anyway, by popular demand, here are the responses for the knight writing prompt. Enjoy!
I believe that in this case, the best thing to do is to tell my lord that I saw him with his mistress, and to ask him why he was cheating on his wife. If he truly is the most Honorable of lords, then he will be true to his wife with some encouragement. If he doesn't heed my advice however, I don't believe that going to another lord would be a wise decision, since they would be even less honorable than the lord I'm currently under. If this were the case, I would threaten the king to talk to his wife about it, otherwise I would leave. However, I doubt I would leave unless the lord's behavior has become disgusting, as he is the most honorable lord, therefore all the other lords are even worse in this regard. However, this isn't about the morality of cheating, it's about trust. If I know that my lord is abusing the trust of someone else (who he has no stated reason for) then what's to say that he wouldn't abuse the trust I have in him?
Before my answer, I will discuss loyalty, the key factor. Then I will discuss honesty, and lastly, I will discuss fidelity.
I'm not terribly sure why I've been loyal to my lord all his life -- I'm assuming here that he did nothing to inspire great gratitude in me, though this is difficult for me to imagine as, while I am extremely loyal to my loved ones, I am never blindly loyal due to ties of employment, institutional affilitation, patriotism, etc. To secure my loyalty, one must inspire it in me. As such, I would probably be a bad knight, because if I did not see any reason to give my loyalty to my lord, I would not be inclined to serve them with my all.
Because of how highly I value my own loyalty -- I only give it to those I truly believe deserve it, and when I do, I give all of it --, I see loyalty as a very admirable character trait, and to be disloyal to those who deserve loyalty is generally dishonourable. It would fill me with great guilt and conflict to be in this situation, where I risk being disloyal to either side.
Honesty, however, is more important to me. The ultimate dishonour is to be dishonest; sometimes these ideals conflict, but honesty reigns supreme. I despise liars, particularly the unfaithful -- for personal reasons (my father was very unfaithful to my mother, and unfaithfulness is the #1 thing I cannot abide in a lover) and for moral reasons, because to cheat is both an act of disloyalty and usually accompanied by dishonesty. Additionally, I have two ties of loyalty in this situation: my lord's wife and my lord. My lord has committed one of the most abhorrent acts he can, and does not deserve my loyalty, for he has been both dishonest and disloyal, while the wife has done nothing to incur my disloyalty and deserves the truth.
However, I have to think practically as well. While it seems I have other employment opportunities, to break my honour like this would disgrace me and possibly invalidate those, and I also don't want to be killed. If the lord is the type of man I could approach seriously about this and be treated with respect, I would probably approach him first, and implore him to mend relations with his wife, reminding him that I have loyalty to her as she is his lady and thus my superior, and that I wish to see neither of them unhappy. If not, I would go directly to the wife, tell her what I knew, and then, having dishonoured my relations with my lord, seek new employment. However, I would not tarnish his reputation by telling some of those lords what he had done; I would simply tell them that I believed I could no longer serve him with my full strength, and that as a knight I look for a lord I can most loyally devote myself to protecting, so it would be a further dishonour to remain in his employment.
I could simply not meddle in my lord's affairs, but that would be a betrayal to my personal integrity; I would lose so much respect for him that I would not be a good knight, and lose respect for myself for betraying my own ideals. I firmly believe that, unless there were other circumstances (I can't imagine what), this is the course of action I would take.
billy says I don't need to send in anything else.
Chances are if I am a loyal knight, this Lord would have to be pretty powerful or come from a very powerful family. There could be no question of leaving him, or I would have done it years ago. More likely than not I would turn a blind eye to it, as it is his business and as he's a lord in medieval times I'm surprised its not more than just one.
If, however, we were in some sort of dilemma: war, famine, political turmoil, then I would probably confront him about it and politely question his ability to deal with both keeping his affair silent and balance the current dilemma. I may maneuver the situation to get a preferable position in the political scene if I felt it was necessary.
If the discussion between the mistress and the lord involved killing the wife or others, I would probably consider enabling the targets' escape. There's no use for senseless killing, but it would be pointless to keep the lord near someone he was willing to kill at any time.
If the discussion involved myself in any way negatively, I would probably go to the wife first. I would probably explain the scenario and get the necessary proof if necessary. I would then recommend leaving immediately and seeking asylum at a rival or distant castle.
If there's any other scenario, I would probably act differently.
My first course of action would be to confront the lord which has employed me. I would ask him why he was cheating on his wife, who was, as you said, very kind and honorable. I would tell him that I felt that I wanted him to think about his actions, and his wife that so loves him. Or, perhaps I could persuade him that he should talk to his wife about it, if he feels strong enough, and motivated enough by my talk. I feel that, with proper reconciliation, he and his wife, both very kind people, could get over it, and leave his mistress behind.
(does this mean one of the captains are selling out oh noes
also inb4 mekkah sends you "penis" 100 times)
I myself am the last to leave on a ship that is still has hope, while the first on a ship that will obv sink. Sharing this information with my king's wife would endanger our "ship", this I would never risk. But would our "ship" start going down, I'd share this information with the one I believe is the most easily fooled, by having him learn of it in a similar way I did, and have him to give the news to the queen.
Using this chaos, and the blame being put on the sad stupid squire, I'd support the queen gaining her trust, and through that gain everything she has access to, and join a side that has still hope. I'm loyal, but no fool.
At this point, the only reasonable course of action left to this knight is to start a military coup. The king is clearly unfit to rule, seeing as he cannot even keep his promises to those closest to him, never mind the realm, and has fooled me into believing that he was a great man. The other lords who wanted me on their side are obviously total wusses, as even I could tell that they were less deserving of my service than the current king is, and as we know, the current king is unworthy to rule. Surely the lord's wife, the lady, is nice and honorable, but are nice and honorable good qualities for the leader of a lordship? No. There is only one person left in this picture who is worthy of ruling this lordship, and it is I, askaninjask.
Given the lack of background information in the prompt, I will assume that I am a traditional European knight in the Middle Ages or Renaissance era. Also given that the nature of the conversation is more than likely trivial due to a lack of embellishment of the subject matter, it is more than likely a casual conversation and not a plot to assassinate the current queen. The nature of the relationship between the monarchs cannot be determined from the prompt, so regardless of the queen's virtue I will assume that she has a chaste, yet frigid relationship with her husband. Given the lack of emotional investment in the relationship, the damage caused by the presence of a mistress is relatively minimal and it’s a nonissue.
As a result, I would proceed to do nothing, as marriages were not much more than tools of power among royalty, and historically to have mistresses were even expected of a king (or any ruler, really.) Though, I might sneak a peek around the corner just to see what the king’s tapping, for curiosity’s sake.
Also, it is possible that you have recieved the secret prize as of this post, or at least parts of it.
Last edited by Bass; Aug 19th, 2012 at 1:05:04 AM.