Originally Posted by Fat shrang
Basically, when we decided that we'd remove Classic MixNite, it wasn't really a question of "is this set bad" but more of a "we want to remove two sets from the analysis, which two are the most expendable?" We all thought Dragonite's analysis was getting too bloated, and some trimming needed to be done. Bulky DD went first. Then we discussed which one had to go. We decided on Classic MixNite, because as mentioned, it is the one that is the most "outclassed" set that Dragonite has. Yes, we know it isn't completely outclassed because it does have its own niche (small as it is), but in general, if you want to run that set, you'll get better results from Salamence and Hydreigon in the majority of cases. Again, we're not saying it's bad, but it is the set on the analysis which has the least of a niche out of all of them, thus it was removed. Think of this like your university entrance exams. We set the bar of including students into our course at a exam mark of 99/100. Classic MixNite got 98/100. While 98/100 is still an excellent score, it fell short of our cut-off therefore it wasn't included.
Ah alright, that gives me a better idea of the thought process behind it.
If that's the case I can see your point. Of course though we'd have to make a fairly large OO mention for it, because I really don't want it to be forgotten. By "rather large" I mean a full paragraph only btw, which for OO is pretty big :P. Just basically say Dragonite can run a mixed set like Salamence or Hydreigon that is effective and lures in physical walls better than the other two, but after the first turn is generally outclassed by them outside of Extremespeed. Hell, we could just slightly expand on that sentence I just wrote and that should sum it up in a nutshell. It's a shame to see all the work I put into that set go down the drain but hey, that's just the way the cookie crumbles you know? At least I got some experience out of it and I certainly learned a lot while making it.
Now that that's settled I can probably start writing up some skeletons or maybe just skip right to the full rewrites. However I really do still want to test out that Tank set. I really want to know just how that thing plays, so I can finally call myself an expert on all things Dragonite :P.
Oh, and we were talking about parashuffler a little back, just want to say that the results of my testing with different move layouts other than the current one didn't really impress. I generally found myself wishing I had the original layout rather than the the other options. While Flamethrower/Fire Blast can keep their AC mention, I'm not going to slash them unless I hear a lot of knowledgeable and well explained opinions to the contrary. Or maybe just one really good one :P basically you'll have to convince me otherwise or at least make me decide it's close enough that it doesn't matter.