Ok Furai basically is going to force this to be revived (as seen in that award thread), but (I wanna revive it before he does) it needs a revival anyway, I mean look at it, it doesn't have ANYTHING up to date. Well unless someone wants to make a new post. If the decision to necro-bump this is unwise PM me and I will delete this post.
[Kyogre@Choice Specs and Modest, Water Spout / Thunder / Ice Beam / Surf + Genesect@Choice Scarf and Hasty OR Lonely, Explosion / Ice Beam / Iron Head / U-turn] <- Yes its physically offensive because I don't use anything but U-turn half the time
[Specs Kyogre is a deadly wallbreaker, and this combination attempts to abuse its immense strength by removing the few things that can switch in on it. A Modest Water Spout from Choice Specs Kyogre conveniently places Latias and Grass Arceus into a range where it can be OHKOed by Ice Beam the turn after if it has taken Stealth Rock damage. Genesect can switch into Latias with ease the turn it tries to Recover or hit Kyogre with a move and force it to switch out or kill it with U-turn. U-turn capitalizes on double switching, allowing you to put Kyogre in that same scenario again, and force that Latias or Grass Arceus to eat another Specs Spout, or if you predict correctly, a Specs Ice Beam. Both will OHKO the two if they did not choose Recover, and the idea is to Pressure them towards choosing an attacking move, unless they want the rest of their team to stomach + 1 U-turns for a while. Giratina-a and Gastrodon are also easy pickings for the core, as the former will be unable to avoid being 3HKOed by Specs Kyogre's Ice Beam or 3HKOed by Genesect's Iron Head, while Gastrodon falls into the range of an OHKO of a Specs Ice Beam after Genesect releases his +1 U-turn.]
[This combination does not work on Palkia unfortunately, as its Thunder will 2HKO both Genesect and Kyogre while it avoids the 2HKO from Specs Water Spout. Water Arceus is also a pain to deal with it, while it is 2HKOed by Specs Thunder from Kyogre, it will be able to maim both Pokemon with Grass Knot and Judgment.]
[These two problems can be fixed by adding Chansey or Grass Arceus to the team. Grass Arceus can start a Calm Mind war with Water Arceus or just setup in the face of Choice Scarf Palkia locked into any move. It can also take advantage of the holes broken into Ferrothorn and Chansey to start a Calm Mind sweep. Chansey may not be able to sweep but it can stall out Palkia and Water Arceus with Toxic while serving as a decent Cleric, being able to pass Wishes to Genesect and Kyogre to restore their longevity and allow Kyogre to spam more Choice Specs Water Spouts.]
(15:32) Dusk [DW Uber]: Actually Deoxys-a is not the frailest uber
(15:32) Dusk [DW Uber]:Its Carvanha
(15:33) X-Spin: O.O What are its bases?
(15:33) Dusk [DW Uber]: 45/20/20 so close to matching Deo-a's 50/20/20
(15:33) X-Spin: That's enough to wall Specs Kyogre!
Great Sage is the best.
Last edited by Mr.lol; Aug 31st, 2012 at 2:31:26 AM.