Originally Posted by Fat LucaroarkZ
The difference in the two cases is that you have an option of whether or not you want to use Stone Edge. Wanna stop losing games due to missing Stone Edge? Stop using it. It's that simple. Your Pokemon has to use it for coverage and Rock Slide is too weak? Don't use that Pokemon. When you decide to use Stone Edge, you acknowledge the fact that missing 20% of the time could cost you the game. If you don't want to deal with losing games you should have won due to hax, don't fucking use Stone Edge.
When battling against Sand Veil, you don't
have a choice. Don't bring up changing the weather because that assumes winning the weather war, which will not always go in your favor. Any 100% accurate move is lowered to the same accuracy as Stone Edge (and we all know how bad Stone Edge is), while all those imperfect accuracy moves like Stone Edge, Fire Blast, Hydro Pump, and Will-O-Wisp? Yeah, good luck hitting those. It's already explained enough why Sand Veil is bad for this metagame, so.... just read this post
. Have a nice day.
Loss conditions don't become invalid just because you don't consent to them. Doesn't matter whether they're random or not.
I'm not denying Sand Veil's power, nor am I saying it should necessarily be permitted. What I am saying, however, is that it is fair
. If you lose a game due to a miss, you did not deserve to win, and calling it a match you "should" have won is simply false. Again: of matches where victory comes down to an 80% chance in your favor, you should win 80% of those games, and you should lose 20% of them.
Statistically, that is what will approximately happen over the course of enough games.