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Originally Posted by Fat Lord of the Fireflies
I've been using RestTalk Chinchou. A lot. And while it is a very reliable counter to Murkrow, it is also very weak to other common stuff.
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Sweet, you have 5 other team slots to use. You don't have a spinner or Natu? You shouldn't be using RT Chinchou. You don't have a missy counter? Your team is probably silly. The list goes on. Murkrow is powerful enough that using a Pokemon such as RT Chinchou that counters it (and Chinchou has other uses lol... stop making it sound like RT Chinchou does nothing. It pairs well with Mienfoo for annihilating Larvesta, for example, and also checks Drifloon, another problem Poke) is viable.
As for why you're ragging on Eviolite Archen, I'm not entirely sure why you think that's OK or how many times you've used it, but it's a legit set. Murkrow literally has no options against you, and eventually will wear itself out via recoil damage. Furthermore, if you can get out of Defeatist range and force a switch, you either get free SR or a free hit on the opponent, which is pretty sweet coming from Archen's stats.
As for your argument that Murkrow is somehow broken because it makes Occa Magnemite a thing, I'm not really sure why this is relevant. Metagaming in Pokemon is the process by which you find checks for things that need checks. An unorthodox set isn't a sign of overcentralization, and a worthwhile, niche set is actually a sign of a good / creative playerbase, as we should be encouraging diversity in the metagame to a point.