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generic name · Sep 20th, 2012, 8:11:20 PM

Ive had quite a bit of sucess on the cap ladder with a hail team that is similar, but imo better than the one posted.

On abomasnow i have hp fire and eq, hp fire is arguable over fpunch but id say eq is very important for mollux.

Specs syclant doesn't seem as able to sweep to me, because while ice is a great offensive typing that is easily spammable the bug and ground coverage (focus blast for the rare balloon tran or tail glow although imo it's too frail for that) matter too much

The kril and reuniclus sets are great, I'm using exactly the same.

Mamo is good but doesn't really fit on to the team. One of the main reasons hail isn't popular is that ppl make the mistake of spamming ice types, which just doesn't work.
Why mamo is redundant:
Abomasnow already has ice shard
Dragons, especially things like dd mence, are very uncommon on Cap ladder
Already 2 other pokes with ice STAB
Mamo is just too slow for cap, at 80 base speed adamant it just fails to outspeed necturna, tomohawk, +speed mollux, and colossoil. Not all of these are that important because it has ice shard, but ice shard isn't are very spammable attack.
DOWN WITH CB MAMO
*ahem anyways*
I'd also say that heatran isn't that great on this hail team, even though traditionally hail simply loves that flash fire because:
the one fire cap is pyroak, who can be annoying but isn't gonna sweep anything.
heatran is not enough to deal with that fighting weakness, bulk up revenankh/maybe arghonaut can sweep pretty much the whole team (and just kill hetran before it roars)
reuniclus is useful but if it is gonna be threatening it can't be coming in constantly and it prefers to switch in on tomo or mollux than something like cb terrakion or rev.

apart from the minor alterations of life orb syclant and eq and hp fire on aboma (maybe with expert belt) the 2 pokes I changed when I use hail are:
Revenankh and tomohawk over heatran and mamoswine
Rev is great at switching in to special threats, so with tomo and reuniclus covering the physical side together the team can switch something in to pretty much all caps

Bulk up revenankh (air lock is useful but optional, imo it's better on ladder because status is very rare) can sweep easily once tomo is removed

Tomohawk provides SR like heatran, but also rapid spin support (having mountaineer does not equal the whole team doesn't care about hazards) and it beats rev and other physical threats
Heatran provides the steel type resists to ghost, steel, and dragon which are useful, whenever I see a kitsunoh I know I'm in trouble.
Sorry to criticize but i tried to put improvements for everything i said

Sep 20th, 2012, 8:11:20 PM	#5
generic name Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 36	Ive had quite a bit of sucess on the cap ladder with a hail team that is similar, but imo better than the one posted. On abomasnow i have hp fire and eq, hp fire is arguable over fpunch but id say eq is very important for mollux. Specs syclant doesn't seem as able to sweep to me, because while ice is a great offensive typing that is easily spammable the bug and ground coverage (focus blast for the rare balloon tran or tail glow although imo it's too frail for that) matter too much The kril and reuniclus sets are great, I'm using exactly the same. Mamo is good but doesn't really fit on to the team. One of the main reasons hail isn't popular is that ppl make the mistake of spamming ice types, which just doesn't work. Why mamo is redundant: Abomasnow already has ice shard Dragons, especially things like dd mence, are very uncommon on Cap ladder Already 2 other pokes with ice STAB Mamo is just too slow for cap, at 80 base speed adamant it just fails to outspeed necturna, tomohawk, +speed mollux, and colossoil. Not all of these are that important because it has ice shard, but ice shard isn't are very spammable attack. DOWN WITH CB MAMO ahem anyways I'd also say that heatran isn't that great on this hail team, even though traditionally hail simply loves that flash fire because: the one fire cap is pyroak, who can be annoying but isn't gonna sweep anything. heatran is not enough to deal with that fighting weakness, bulk up revenankh/maybe arghonaut can sweep pretty much the whole team (and just kill hetran before it roars) reuniclus is useful but if it is gonna be threatening it can't be coming in constantly and it prefers to switch in on tomo or mollux than something like cb terrakion or rev. apart from the minor alterations of life orb syclant and eq and hp fire on aboma (maybe with expert belt) the 2 pokes I changed when I use hail are: Revenankh and tomohawk over heatran and mamoswine Rev is great at switching in to special threats, so with tomo and reuniclus covering the physical side together the team can switch something in to pretty much all caps Bulk up revenankh (air lock is useful but optional, imo it's better on ladder because status is very rare) can sweep easily once tomo is removed Tomohawk provides SR like heatran, but also rapid spin support (having mountaineer does not equal the whole team doesn't care about hazards) and it beats rev and other physical threats Heatran provides the steel type resists to ghost, steel, and dragon which are useful, whenever I see a kitsunoh I know I'm in trouble. Sorry to criticize but i tried to put improvements for everything i said Last edited by generic name; Oct 10th, 2012 at 8:31:41 PM.