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***Jumpman16***** · Sep 22nd, 2012, 7:12:59 PM

1. If you have a legit cart, you should really just be using that exclusively instead. We don't condone the use of hacking devices.

2. Yes.

3. I doubt it, but the biggest problem with this strategy, while nice, is that the AI can just switch the very next turn after you use Trick anyway, before you get a chance to Disable.

4. Yes, which is awesome. That means that you have on average a 27% chance to flinch with Rock Blast (if it hits), and a 41% chance if it hits five times. Doubleslap King's Rock Serene Grace Blissey with Thunderwave has a 54% chance of flinching which is pretty neat!

Anyway guys, I've been thinking about revisiting a simple team concept from Gen IV, and that's the All Choice Team. There are more than enough new pokemon and moves to refresh this idea. I used a CB Flygon/Scarf Scizor/Specs Starmie with modest success but the team really didn't like stuff like Curse Umbreon or Minimize Blissey, if I remember correctly. Carl sees merit in Latios because of Trick, and that would solve the statup problem essentially. And actually just now we were revisiting Advance's Tower teams and we recalled that Anabel's Raikou/Latios/Snorlax team, which has marvelous synergy anyway, may be pretty sick for an all-choice team:

Raikou@Choice Scarf: Thunderbolt/Volt Switch/Aura Sphere/HP Ice, Rash, 100HP/252SpA/156Spe (enough for Garchomp)
Latios@Choice Specs: DP/Psyshock/Surf/Trick, Timid, 4HP/252SpA/252Spe
Snorlax@Choice Band: Return/EQ/Crunch/Fire Punch (annoying bug/steels), Adamant, 252Atk/200Def/56SpD (kinda randomish whatever)

Status kind of sucks and I'd love to theorymon a team with Specs Magic Bounce Espeon on it but at least nobody cares about Toxic, Latios and Raikou take burn and Lax will "happily" take paralysis. Would be neat if Volt Absorb were possible (on Aura Sphere Raikou) but this may work...that's what Guts is for though I guess, too bad most Guts pokes leave something to be desired...Heracross and MH is ever disappointing, and even if I wanted to use it I'd want to Scarf it with Moxie for some CC/Reversal Shenanigans...which actually isn't that bad an idea...hm...

Sep 22nd, 2012, 7:12:59 PM	#1993
*Jumpman16* np: Michael Jackson - 'Mon in the Mirror (Dream World mix off the "Black or White" album) Administrator** Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,737 Fuqua: Where business cases are read and devils are blue	1. If you have a legit cart, you should really just be using that exclusively instead. We don't condone the use of hacking devices. 2. Yes. 3. I doubt it, but the biggest problem with this strategy, while nice, is that the AI can just switch the very next turn after you use Trick anyway, before you get a chance to Disable. 4. Yes, which is awesome. That means that you have on average a 27% chance to flinch with Rock Blast (if it hits), and a 41% chance if it hits five times. Doubleslap King's Rock Serene Grace Blissey with Thunderwave has a 54% chance of flinching which is pretty neat! Anyway guys, I've been thinking about revisiting a simple team concept from Gen IV, and that's the All Choice Team. There are more than enough new pokemon and moves to refresh this idea. I used a CB Flygon/Scarf Scizor/Specs Starmie with modest success but the team really didn't like stuff like Curse Umbreon or Minimize Blissey, if I remember correctly. Carl sees merit in Latios because of Trick, and that would solve the statup problem essentially. And actually just now we were revisiting Advance's Tower teams and we recalled that Anabel's Raikou/Latios/Snorlax team, which has marvelous synergy anyway, may be pretty sick for an all-choice team: Raikou@Choice Scarf: Thunderbolt/Volt Switch/Aura Sphere/HP Ice, Rash, 100HP/252SpA/156Spe (enough for Garchomp) Latios@Choice Specs: DP/Psyshock/Surf/Trick, Timid, 4HP/252SpA/252Spe Snorlax@Choice Band: Return/EQ/Crunch/Fire Punch (annoying bug/steels), Adamant, 252Atk/200Def/56SpD (kinda randomish whatever) Status kind of sucks and I'd love to theorymon a team with Specs Magic Bounce Espeon on it but at least nobody cares about Toxic, Latios and Raikou take burn and Lax will "happily" take paralysis. Would be neat if Volt Absorb were possible (on Aura Sphere Raikou) but this may work...that's what Guts is for though I guess, too bad most Guts pokes leave something to be desired...Heracross and MH is ever disappointing, and even if I wanted to use it I'd want to Scarf it with Moxie for some CC/Reversal Shenanigans...which actually isn't that bad an idea...hm... __________________ You haven't trolled till you've trolled in real life. Read A Mullet's Tale for reference if you haven't yet!