[Ray Jay]

Originally Posted by Fat Lord of the Fireflies

@Ray Jay, my team peaked 1# on the ladder several times, and consistently won me matches against all kind of players. (under username Loco) Don't say a team is silly when you don't know it. I do have Natu and Mienfoo, as well as Scarf Snover (which is a good check to MixKrow if it can switch in on a Sucker Punch / HP Grass) and while Chinchou is good, is just has so many things to check it just finds itself too weakened (or asleep) and suddenly it can't take on Murkrow as reliably. Remember the two common spinners, Drilbur and Staryu, share a weakness with Chinchou, and that Natu is OHKOed most of the time by the most common hazard setter, Dwebble. It thus takes very good prediction skills to prevent any hazards from being set up.

Uhm what? Please don't misquote me, I said

Originally Posted by Fat Ray Jay

You don't have a missy counter? Your team is probably silly.

And I agree with em on virtually all points. Chinchou is a solid counter to Murkrow and that fact simply cannot be refuted, as demonstrated multiple times in this thread. With proper team support, you WILL have some method of clearing hazards and Chinchou WILL stick around long enough to handle Murkrow with smart playing. Furthermore, Chinchou isn't the only counter out there, and it certainly isn't so niche that if you use Chinchou you are greatly opening yourself up to other threats.