I'm not sure what the policy is about comparisons with this particular tier list, but I really don't think "Torkoal is Bottom because Camerupt outclasses it" is a good argument. I know that these pokemon don't exist in a vacuum, but how about looking at pokemon on their own merits? We should be discussing what Torkoal is capable of, not why it isn't as good as Camerupt (assuming that's true; I've used Torkoal a few times but I've never used Camerupt).
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