Originally Posted by Fat alexwolf
Saying HP Ground is bad on Genesect is like saying that HP Fire is bad on Celebi. HP Fire lets Celebi avoid being a free switch-in for Scizor, Forretress, Ferrothorn and Genesect, while HP Ground allows Genesect to OHKO pokes that otherwise he couldn't, such as Heatran, Magnezone and Terrakion. And do i really need to stress how vital is the removal of Heatran for many pokes such as Venusaur, Scizor, Victreebel, ScarfMence and many others? Yeah they both target very specific targets, but these targets are the most common switch-ins to those pokes, and for this reason you are able to lure and kill them. Yeah Mamoswine can OHKO Heatran, as can Heatran can OHKO Scizor (Genesect's and Celebi's arch enemies), but the opponent will switch out unless they have no other choice. This is why lures as so important, when you want to open the door for a sweep.
And yeah Dugtrio exists and can also trap and kill pokes that could wall Genesect, but don't forget that Dugtrio can't fit in all teams (most non Sun teams rarely use him), and that not all people can and want to use 2 slots to deal with something that could have been dealt by only 1.
This is all completely true, except you ignore the underlying point of my argument which is that when Genesect runs HP Ground over another move it loses out on its essential 4 move coverage that makes it so good in the first place. I understand that HP Ground could be a good move for Genesect to have in certain situations, mostly ones involving Heatran, but last I checked Heatran's used on less than 17% of teams, so it's an extremely situational thing to have.
You mention that using Dugtrio to cover Heatran uses two slots, whereas HP Ground Genesect uses only one. You also say that most Sun teams use Dugtrio. Connect these two points, and you'll get what I'm saying. HP Ground Genesect would only be of use on teams that lack Dugtrio, right? And Sun teams generally carry Dugtrio, yes? So it follows that on Sun teams, you don't want to use HP Ground Genesect. Dugtrio's job isn't solely killing Heatran, as I stated; it also beats weather starters and a couple other assorted OU threats to boot.
In summary, HP Ground Genesect may have its uses, but on teams where I feel I'd need it most, I would generally pass in favor of Dugtrio.