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Originally Posted by Fat TPO3
Some of these are rather sketchy pokemon you claim crobat can "Counter". I fail to understand how Crobat reliably counters Blastoise, Swampert, Suicune, Milotic, and Togekiss. I understand that it caun taunt the bulky waters to prevent them from using Roar, Rest, or Calm Mind. However, they're just going to mindlessly spam Scald until your Crobat gets burned, at which point they're going to beat it one on one because Brave Bird won't be able to touch them. Swampert, Suicune, and Milotic commonly carry Ice-type coverage moves, and Swampert can just predict a Roost and nail Crobat with Earthquake. I also wouldn't really feel safe switching Crobat into Togekiss, knowing it could either Body Slam, Thunder Wave, or Nasty Plot on the switch.
If you want to claim that Crobat can taunt them, and U-turn to keep momentum on your side, that's different. Crobat can definitely do that well, however you claim that Crobat consistently beats all of those mons 1 on 1. Can you possibly elaborate a bit on how it takes out those bulky water-types, in addition to safely beating Togekiss?
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If you read my post carefully you'd notice I said
check or counter, not just the latter. If you look at Crobat's analysis, you'd notice Crobat can very wasily run Toxic over U-turn to break stall better--which is how you'd beat all the bulky waters 1 on 1 (although I'm pretty sure you'd still be able to Brave Bird them down eventually. You'd obviously need to get Crobat in without putting it in danger... which I why I said it wins against all of them 1 on 1.
To clarify, when someone says Pokemon X beats Pokemon Y 1 on 1; they're assuming they both hit the field in under the same battle conditions--as in neither one is at a notable disadvantage.