[Hawkstar]

Originally Posted by Fat Theorymon

When Moody was allowed in Dream World, I did use a similar set on Thundurus (except I had Focus Blast instead of Substitute, and I used Life Orb). I gotta admit, It DID do a pretty good job of shutting down most moody Pokemon! The only real issue I had was when I faced a Smeargle that had a sub up and got an evasion boost, that was a pain in the ass. But otherwise, it did its job pretty well! It also helps that even without Moody, Thundurus itself is actually a pretty under rated Pokemon in Ubers heh. I didn't think about its potential against OHKO mons, but I think that if you are going to attempt that, it NEEDS HP Ice. While the test hasn't begun yet, I feel that Gliscor is going to be the most threatening OHKO mon in Ubers, and that uses Guillotine!

Oh yeah, I forgot about Gliscor. Yeah, you still outspeed it unless it's running a dumb Scarf set so HP Ice would probably be better in the last slot.