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DestinyUnknown · Oct 5th, 2012, 10:03:09 AM

Yeah I guess we should discuss a bit more on some controversial pokemon before changing their tier. On the Nidoqueen-Nidoking argument, I agree with kokoloko that they should be on the same tier, B. Even if Nidoqueen is better at checking Heracross and has a slightly better bulk, which honestly isn't that much, and I'm sure that anybody that has used Nidoqueen can attest it dies relatively quickly. While Nidoqueen is a bit better on UU than Nidoking currently, the difference is little, and Nidoqueen isn't good enough to be an ''A'' tier pokemon anyway. So I would say they're both B. Take into account that obviously all the pokemon in each tier aren't equally good, as there will always be pokemon that are slightly better than others, and doing a more ''exact'' tier / ranking system isn't worth.

As for Cofagrigus, I think RT. has a point on making it S tier. Cofagrigus is just one of the most useful pokemon on the tier right now, because it can block Rapid Spin (it's probably the best overall spinblocker atm), check a large portion of the metagame (it can act as a check to stuff like Dragon Dance Kingdra, Heracross, Flygon, Mienshao, Crobat, Cobalion and many more), and it's pretty difficult to set up on it due to Trick Room. Furthermore, Cofagrigus isn't just a defensive pokemon, as it can perform an offensive role at the same time, and it's definitely one of the most threatening sweepers in UU, even if it has the downside of needing 2 turns to set up. Cofagrigus it's also ridiculously easy to fit on any team, because it fills 2 important roles on just 1 slot, and doesn't really need much support to work. I can see kokoloko's point of view though I think that Cofagrigus is a solid A tier at least.

Oct 5th, 2012, 10:03:09 AM	#45
DestinyUnknown DestinyUnknown quit (User has been banned from synIRC (ban evasion)) Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,121 Spain	Yeah I guess we should discuss a bit more on some controversial pokemon before changing their tier. On the Nidoqueen-Nidoking argument, I agree with kokoloko that they should be on the same tier, B. Even if Nidoqueen is better at checking Heracross and has a slightly better bulk, which honestly isn't that much, and I'm sure that anybody that has used Nidoqueen can attest it dies relatively quickly. While Nidoqueen is a bit better on UU than Nidoking currently, the difference is little, and Nidoqueen isn't good enough to be an ''A'' tier pokemon anyway. So I would say they're both B. Take into account that obviously all the pokemon in each tier aren't equally good, as there will always be pokemon that are slightly better than others, and doing a more ''exact'' tier / ranking system isn't worth. As for Cofagrigus, I think RT. has a point on making it S tier. Cofagrigus is just one of the most useful pokemon on the tier right now, because it can block Rapid Spin (it's probably the best overall spinblocker atm), check a large portion of the metagame (it can act as a check to stuff like Dragon Dance Kingdra, Heracross, Flygon, Mienshao, Crobat, Cobalion and many more), and it's pretty difficult to set up on it due to Trick Room. Furthermore, Cofagrigus isn't just a defensive pokemon, as it can perform an offensive role at the same time, and it's definitely one of the most threatening sweepers in UU, even if it has the downside of needing 2 turns to set up. Cofagrigus it's also ridiculously easy to fit on any team, because it fills 2 important roles on just 1 slot, and doesn't really need much support to work. I can see kokoloko's point of view though I think that Cofagrigus is a solid A tier at least. __________________ Last edited by DestinyUnknown; Oct 5th, 2012 at 10:24:43 AM.