[Melee Mewtwo]

Should we ignore the possible team mates a Chomp team can use? I honestly don't know if we should or not since it isn't part of Garchomp himself and we could just end up be arguing team A vs team B. At the same time, people are sure to be using said combo(s) so how can we ignore it? Are trappers exceptions since they just take half decent play to do their job?

Anyways, the guy I want to bring up is Magnezone. Commonly seen paired with dragons to take out steels like Skarmory. Garchomp may just seem to be another dragon but let's not forget that it can easily muscle past stuff like Hippowdon without a Yache Berry (refer to this post for calcs: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=285) or locking itself into Outrage thanks to SD and a cool second STAB option in the form of EQ. Sure you can still check it with stuff like Tangrowth or Quagsire but, as with SD + 3 attacks, who really uses them? (usage stats may be cool things to have, don't know if they do them for suspect ladder though) I've seen people go as far as using Mew or Cresselia to deal with Garchomp, more than Tangrowth actually. If this is going to be stall in a Garchomp metagame, I'm don't think I'm going to be welcoming him back. (Skarm really needs his Leftovers so I don't see Shed Shell as a good option. If anything, it shows just how deep we would have to dig to deal with Garchomp)


Garchomp is very different from those other wallbreakers. He's faster, (except for Terrakion who doesn't outspeed anything special that Garchomp doesn't, besides other Garchomp.) much bulkier, has a SR resistance (except for Terrakion), and has viable coverage moves to get around its usual counters (Without having to sacrifice other coverage moves to do so, too).