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Old Oct 14th, 2012, 7:09:36 PM   #93
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Originally Posted by Fat Alice in Strings View Post
These are things that Excadrill and Krookidile can do better, though. Sandslash is terribly outclassed by Excadrill, and for the most part, becomes dead weight come endgame. It can't defeat any of the bosses without serious help (sans Elesa), and that terrible SpDef means I can't usually switch it into something it should be able to kill because it takes serious damage/gets killed itself because it's so slow.

EDIT: I got the "wonderful" Bold nature, since I'm not picky in-game. Excadrill also has amazing availability, while Sandshrew just has the Desert Resort. It's possible to get a Level 55 Excadrill in Giant Chasm if you really want one late in the game. Don't forget that Excadrill gets everything that Sandslash gets, including Swords Dance. Krookidile has either fake bulk or Moxie to boost its attack (does it get Hone Claws?)

Please tell me how many Physical attackers there are after Mistralton that are of any note at all? How about Gym Leaders that it can trounce? Drayden and Marlon both steamroll Sandslash, Zinzolin has Ice types, a whole bunch of the Plasma Grunts have special attackers, and Ghetsis is...Ghetsis.

The E4 is primarily Special Attackers as well, with Marshal and Grimsley being the only two who don't use Special Attackers (Iris, Caitlin and Shauntel all use Special Attackers)

I'm perfectly fine with moving Sandslash to Mid, though. I may have been a bit harsh on it.
Sandslash being outclassed by Krook and Exca is absolutely true. No one is challenging that. But if Sandslash itself is able to do some of the things those that outclass it also do, shouldn't it still get credit for that itself?

And Marshall/Grimsley make up half of the E4. And Iris does not just use Special attackers. How about her Aggron with her quadruple Ground weakness? And Marshall doesn't have a single move that hits Sandslash super effectively, and half his team is slower. Slash might actually be capable of setting up on Marshall. It'd need healing probably, but he could hypothetically do it. It could also set up on Grimsley's Liepard.

A whole bunch of Plasma has physical stuff, too. Oh, and Corless! Sandslash has plenty to take advantage of against Corless! Also, all the Pawniards in the Shadow Triad. Two of Ghetsis's mon's are also Poison types which are ALSO physical.
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