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Menshay · Oct 29th, 2012, 3:06:57 PM

About the Magmortar line: while Magmortar and Pyroak share that unusual 540 BST, Magby, Magmar and Magmortar were all introduced in different generations and Magmar used to be fully evolved, which means its stats are unusually high for a middle-stage Pokémon.
Pyroak's line was introduced all together, and I think their stats should reflect this. Looking at the other base 540s, the only one in the same situation is Haxorus (the others are either two-stage families or families introduced in different generations).

A couple other considerations:
- Battle Armor doesn't really fit for Embirch since said armor doesn't exist yet. His head doesn't look particularly rocky either. Flarelm is fine with both of them, I guess.
- Related to the armor issue, I could see Embirch's speed stat not increasing at all or even decreasing upon evolution, as it starts to develop shields that keep growing in size and therefore hinder its movements.

About the whole process: I feel it could be useful to have a single stage for both movepools (and maybe even for stat spreads) to ease synchronization between them.

Oct 29th, 2012, 3:06:57 PM	#17
Menshay Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 94 Italy (GMT+1)	About the Magmortar line: while Magmortar and Pyroak share that unusual 540 BST, Magby, Magmar and Magmortar were all introduced in different generations and Magmar used to be fully evolved, which means its stats are unusually high for a middle-stage Pokémon. Pyroak's line was introduced all together, and I think their stats should reflect this. Looking at the other base 540s, the only one in the same situation is Haxorus (the others are either two-stage families or families introduced in different generations). A couple other considerations: - Battle Armor doesn't really fit for Embirch since said armor doesn't exist yet. His head doesn't look particularly rocky either. Flarelm is fine with both of them, I guess. - Related to the armor issue, I could see Embirch's speed stat not increasing at all or even decreasing upon evolution, as it starts to develop shields that keep growing in size and therefore hinder its movements. About the whole process: I feel it could be useful to have a single stage for both movepools (and maybe even for stat spreads) to ease synchronization between them. Last edited by Menshay; Oct 29th, 2012 at 4:33:56 PM.