Originally Posted by Fat malomyotismon
Since when has smogon been an excuse to play for fun, rather than the sport of competition?
What? This statement is really rubbing me the wrong way. I don't think a single user is on here for any reason besides fun. If you find winning fun then so be it but there are loads of people on Smogon, and PS, who are just there to have fun. And why is that so wrong?
A lot of this talk about the differences in the Suspect ladder and the OU ladder is giving off a really elitist vibe. I'm genuinely of the belief that there should never be a minimal rating for usage stats. Who cares if Keldeo isn't being used much by the general populace. What does it matter to you if it is at the 43rd spot or the 9th spot. Even if it drops to UU that doesn't mean you can't use it, nor does it make it any worse of a pokemon all of a sudden. Usage stats have never shown, definitively, which pokemon are the best. Look at DPP when Deoxys-S and Wobbufett were both OU and before they were both voted Uber, Wobbufett had just over 5% usage, and Deoxys-S a little over 10%.(Source
The thing about Suspect ladders is that everyone is only seriously
there to make voting requirements and if they know an easy way to do so they'll do it. I'm referring to how many, many players use the same team to ladder(Here's looking at you toed/torn/gene/trio/tenta/ferro). Its been proven to work and it's much easier than taking the time to build one of your own. Because of this the usage stats are quite biased to those teams(another example, Focus Sash being Terrakion's most used item).
Plus, if we wanted to get true usage stats based on which pokemon are really the best we'd use Tournament matches now wouldn't we ;)
Genesect's 50%, in my opinion shouldn't be looked at without a grain of salt. Sure the closest usage like that I remember was DPP Scizor after it got BP(hovered around 35%) but again this is Suspect ladder, which is always
bloated in favor of the 3-4 teams which crop up that get Voting Reqs easily. Genesect fits snugly on most of those teams. Too be honest, I kind of thought Genesect's usage would be even higher, I definitely saw it at least at 50% of the time. I can't be the only one who saw a Genesect on basically every team on Suspect, can I?