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Amarillo · Nov 4th, 2012, 9:19:42 PM

I would like to say one thing: the fact that current Spikestacking teams are not required to use a Ghost-type. Good Ghost-types are around, but it's a rare type. As a result, spikestacking teams /should/ be really limited in their build considering the rare Spike user, rare Ghosts, and the synergy as it happens.

However, current NU doesn't require that. Why? Because the only spinner Smashkoal has his way around spinblockers. Successful spinblocker is really limited to Frillish at the moment. And Frillish doesn't work unless you stall. The remaining spinners are really rare, or give massive momentum away in buckets. Armaldo sounds dandy and all but fails to do what Rock-types are supposed to do (check birds) and I say is a big problem if you go for a supporter type set.

Bringing a ghost-type is useless, and no one has spinners that can last through hazards, so why bring it? This is the current mentality on Spikestacking teams right now. Zeb's Heist, and other teams similar to it, are really strong because Spikes are easy to abuse, easy to set up, and most importantly, most teams don't have a way to get rid of them. If they do, they are using Torkoal and consequently don't have a way to consistently spin multiple times (because of its SR weakness.) Right now Garbodor sees less usage than it deserves...

but Scolipede will be hyped. And Scolipede will be good. You'll see it as top 5 and everywhere. You'll see Golem being wildly popular again just so that you can prevent multiple layers from this beast. And you'll see this type of no-Ghost Spikestacking teams not being punished because there's essentially no Spinners that can spin repeatedly.

You can laugh at hitmonchan all you want for not being able to bypass Ghost-types. I'd just say having an option is better than not having one at all.

If we see Hitmonchan drop alongside Scolipede, we'll see the usage of Acrofloon, Haunter, and stuff (rightfully) increasing. Otherwise we'll just see a bunch of Scolipede leads cheesing the same strategy over and over.

Nov 4th, 2012, 9:19:42 PM	#15
Amarillo yellow! Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 713	I would like to say one thing: the fact that current Spikestacking teams are not required to use a Ghost-type. Good Ghost-types are around, but it's a rare type. As a result, spikestacking teams /should/ be really limited in their build considering the rare Spike user, rare Ghosts, and the synergy as it happens. However, current NU doesn't require that. Why? Because the only spinner Smashkoal has his way around spinblockers. Successful spinblocker is really limited to Frillish at the moment. And Frillish doesn't work unless you stall. The remaining spinners are really rare, or give massive momentum away in buckets. Armaldo sounds dandy and all but fails to do what Rock-types are supposed to do (check birds) and I say is a big problem if you go for a supporter type set. Bringing a ghost-type is useless, and no one has spinners that can last through hazards, so why bring it? This is the current mentality on Spikestacking teams right now. Zeb's Heist, and other teams similar to it, are really strong because Spikes are easy to abuse, easy to set up, and most importantly, most teams don't have a way to get rid of them. If they do, they are using Torkoal and consequently don't have a way to consistently spin multiple times (because of its SR weakness.) Right now Garbodor sees less usage than it deserves... but Scolipede will be hyped. And Scolipede will be good. You'll see it as top 5 and everywhere. You'll see Golem being wildly popular again just so that you can prevent multiple layers from this beast. And you'll see this type of no-Ghost Spikestacking teams not being punished because there's essentially no Spinners that can spin repeatedly. You can laugh at hitmonchan all you want for not being able to bypass Ghost-types. I'd just say having an option is better than not having one at all. If we see Hitmonchan drop alongside Scolipede, we'll see the usage of Acrofloon, Haunter, and stuff (rightfully) increasing. Otherwise we'll just see a bunch of Scolipede leads cheesing the same strategy over and over. __________________ ~~