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Originally Posted by Fat tehy
Edit: Nightmare, what defines "out of hand"? Let's say there is an option, any time in the game, to just click a button and have a 10% chance to win, but a 90% chance to lose. It's not really out of hand-you can only lose 10% of the time. Only problem is, it would just rob good players of winning. And the example you gave is perfect-the metagame CAN adjust. I could run, say, restalk celebi with psychic, HP fire, and recover. Or restalk salamence. Or restalk Heracross/kyogre for darkrai. And i haven't even begun to talk about random lum berries.Forcing the metagame to adjust to them would be very stupid, but very possible.
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Out of hand generally means it's generally stupidly hard to deal with. For example, Dark Void in Double Battles (much as I hate to say it as it's one of my faves yes it's broken), the 70% usage on Garchomp in B/W, Soul Dew Lati@s, No Sleep Clause Poison Heal Breloom, things like that. I don't think the first reaction is "it should be banned" because something is undesirable or even a slight bit OP (like example, Drizzle and Swift Swim. I don't know who came up with that idea, but I've always found it managable). I think if you're going to ban something, it is a last resort and has to be clearly, overwhelmingly overpowered or something's wrong.
I know OHKO's aren't the most desirable things around, but hey, it takes Pokemon like Lapras and Walrein and gets them out of NU. Also, aren't there a few complaints about stall being generally nonviable lately? When you artificially ban things these kinds of situations occur.
Might be getting a bit off topic here, but let's take the most broken of all games in terms of usage and strategies: Marvel vs. Capcom 2. Does it mean the rest of the characters are unusable: No, I've found a way to win using lesser known characters (yes, it takes work, and I may not be able to beat Justin Wong, lol). But it is possible because something is unexplored or untapped in potential. I think it's the same difference here.
Just my 2C.
-James