Originally Posted by Fat Alice in Strings
For some reason, I thought Superpower was in Driftveil. Being slow isn't terrible, though. 60 base speed isn't terrible; Magnezone, Sandslash, Gothitelle, and Scrafty all have the same base speed or lower (not entirely sure on Slash and Zone, but sure on 'telle and Scrafty), and it wasn't a huge problem. The problem is bulk. Flareon has decent Special bulk, and trash physical bulk.
If we do like you say, then Sandslash would be in Low because it's outclassed by every other Ground type in the game bar the obvious. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Low is for things that need significant help to get through the game or aren't efficient. Adaptability Eevee is actually quite good, and Flash Fire is incredibly useful for switching in on things that it normally couldn't beat. 130 Base Attack is really freaking good, so the low power on Fire Fang isn't a problem for the most part.
You seem to have missed the Base 95 Special Attack stat as well, which is quite good. It gets Lava Plume, which has a good burn chance, and when that gets weak, it gets Flamethrower. As for Superpower, I always pictured it and used it like Close Combat. They're virtually the same for Flareon, so I don't see what the problem with having a gigantic hit land and switching out. You do the same with Close Combat, because the two stat drops are painful. I'll also mention that Giga Impact hits incredibly hard with Flareon, and its one of the better users of Giga Impact in the game, thanks to its 130 Base Attack.
I'd like to hear someone else's argument on whether Flare should be Low Tier or not. I am considering it, based on the fact that Superpower is found a lot later than I remembered it being found.
I'd like to hear how earlygame Gothita fairs, since I got mine as a Gothorita in the Strange House. I believe that Gothitelle is easily mid tier thanks to having better speed and better bulk than Reunicles (and not having to throw Quick Claw on it to have it outspeed stuff) but lower SpAtk.
The difference between Flareon and things like Scrafty is that they have the typing and bulk to take hits. Flareon does not. They are also better attackers than Flareon as they can actually use their best offenses.
Also, 65/110 isn't even that bulky on the special side, because 65 base HP is.. low. If you want a bulky Eeveelution on the special side, Vaporeon is better, and can actually do more damage too.
Sandslash isn't actually outclassed by every Ground-type.
It's stronger than the Onix line.
It's physically bulkier than the Trapinch line [And useful quicker]
It doesn't come with the weaknesses the Steel type brings that Excadrill has to suffer, but this one is the only real case of outclassing, but oh look, Drilbur is Top.
It is tankier and doesn't have the dark type downsides that the Sandile line has.
The Numel line isn't even comparable, and Piloswine comes *really* late and has the Ice type weaknesses.
You can make an argument for using Sandslash over every Ground-type except maybe Excadrill. It's not completely
Give me one reason to use Flareon over the Growlithe line or the Darumaka line. There isn't one. Everything Flareon does is done better by them.
That's why Flareon should be low, and a tier below Growlithe.
Although, to be honest, I wouldn't object to Sandslash being in Low anyway.
Also, Eevee is a 5% encounter rate, in a side area. It took me over an hour to find an Eevee for my current run's Umbreon. And then, you have to factor in it's pretty low catch rate , and the fact it might have Run Away instead of Adaptabilty, making the encounter rate of an Adaptability Eevee technically 2.5%.