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Old Nov 14th, 2012, 4:07:37 PM   #157
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And i should have added i am still always in the top 5 of the ladder i just stopped playig for a bit in october, in fact i am occasionally numero uno under french fries (in NOVEMBER), i know the metagame. but i get your point i am using a different team now and just recently i played with my old stall team again because i thought you brought up points i overlooked. and i think you're wrong, virizion is major major major but is only slightly more threatening than Cobalion which already existed (setting up on bulky waters like a baws). Mew was always crazy but i have solid responses to him, and by the way dusclops can counter sd attacking variants while snorlax umbreon counters np ones. a good general switch in is like dusclops or arcanine if its actually np go to the special wall! Cofagrigus was never a real threat against defensive teams and its easier to spin against him than Sableye imo so i am liking that. i dont get why you bring up roserade and such like you do "oh no now its only used on 20% of teams instead of 22%!!!" same difference a couple ranks really dont matter and its just good to enhance your rhetoric "this is the king of uu blah blah blah". heracross was always dominant since moxie was released and its scarf set (which incidentally dusclops counters) was common even before then.

This metagame though is not more balanced in my humble opinion, a balanced game would allow for stall playstyles to be more than a random occurance, yes stall teams will be my love forever and i will always whine about them not being dominant enough. so much for the greatest playstyle anyhow.

If a niche is checking nearly all special attackers while being able to spin and pose and offensive threat then that niche is perfectly good enough to bump cryo up to c imo.

You didnt have to doubt me calc wise, not only do i have experience and i know what im talking about (usually) you could have just checked the calcs yourself. yes a cryo can live a sheer force fire blast from lo modest nidoqueen/ timid lo nidoking even after stealth rocks and proceed to ohko back with lo ice beam with a set similar to 252 hp and 252 speed (ohkos nidoking at least but you would irreparably damage nidoqueen anyhow, which is actually better than killing it if you were planning a moxie heracross sweep). it can also take a zapdos' heatwave assuming it has a lo and timid.

No i personally believe stealth rocks should be banned because its centralizing as fuck but i am pretty sure thats not a popular opinion. i mean all sr does is take away a couple dozen's pokemons usefulness and deal 200% worth of damage a game and force what would be shitty pokemon (blastoise, hitmontop) into high usage. perfectly legitamate move right?!! (totally off topic i know this ban would never happen even in my pokemon infested dreams).

oh you got another techinal point wrong btw, cryo has 105 base speed not 95 so it can easily outspeed zapdos and bandgon and shaymin and murder them all.
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